[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: Meanwhile ... Was: locfinder v2 beta [CLOSED]

Tue Nov 26 12:35:51 EST 2002

Hi EB,

I insmuch as that might be the truth there is still a time and a place for
everything.  All I am requesting is that people be careful what they say on
the list, and even if the data could be used by other groups there is no
point emailing everyone on the list when the decsion is really initialy up
to the people who represent MelbWireless or who wrote the software in the
first place, should they decide to share the data with others and wish to
consult the list(or MW members), then I am happy to open this debate up.
Apart from that I think its really a none issue that shouldnt be seen on
here again unless raised by the above mentioned people only.

As another thought, I have noticed a lot of people on this list are quite
smart and brainy in there own fields of interest, but I have also noticed
that a lot of these people lack certain social skills to make interaction on
this list easier, so in the interests of promoting a good wireless ethic
could we keep all flames, smart @$$ comments, and general derogatry comments
off this list, if you wish to answer back to someone with one of the above
mentioned answers make sure you delete melbwireless at wireless.org.au from the
reply section and only send the answer back to the person who you are
responding too.  We are after all a public group and we can undo good PR
faster than we can generate it if we are not careful.

So lets get back to the task at hand.  Building wireless networks !!

Matt.

----- Original Message -----
From: "evilbunny" <evilbunny at sydneywireless.com>
To: "Matt Pearce" <mattpearce at optusnet.com.au>
Cc: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Meanwhile ... Was: Re: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta

> Hello Matt,
>
> My comments weren't aimed at instigating anything, however there are
> quite a few groups in Victoria apart from MW that could make use of
> the data as well...
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  evilbunny                            mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
>
> http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
> http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
> http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
>
> Tuesday, November 26, 2002, 11:51:11 AM, you wrote:
>
> MP> Now this is more like a post we should be seeing !!, as a note to all
> MP> parties who wish to start trouble between people, keep it off this
list.  I
> MP> am on this list to get communications with like minded people who want
to
> MP> build wireless networks (although I am severely hampered by
inhospitable
> MP> terrain (read big hill, big tree's)) anything else is basically a
> MP> distraction and unwanted.  And while I am here, anyone along Forest Rd
in
> MP> Boronia (or that can see down into my little valley just of Daffodil
Rd) I
> MP> want to hear from you so we can get something going around here.
>
> MP> So lets go guys, more building less bickering.
>
> MP> Matt.
>
>
> MP> ----- Original Message -----
> MP> From: "sanbar" <sandbar at ozemail.com.au>
> MP> To: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> MP> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:35 AM
> MP> Subject: Meanwhile ... Was: Re: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
>
>
> >> ... petty infighting among diametrically opposed viewpoints aside - and
> >> in a pathetic attempt to kill this waste of bandwidth of a thread - the
> >> serious business of building a wireless network goes on.
> >>
> >> Node FZJ was able to make a link to node BCA last night (confirmed by
> >> the server logs) via node BHH. It's a distance of about 2.03km from
> >> FZJ-BCA, but via Vak it's about 2.33km. Next step is the jump to
> >> Fitzroy/Thornbury/Northcote.
> >>
> >> Grunties, ffs get an omni up!
> >>
> >> Innernorth roqz. Everyone else sux. Now that's the sort of mailing list
> >> flame bait we need.
> >> - Barry
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 09:52, evilbunny wrote:
> >> > Hello Steven,
> >> >
> >> > I didn't mean share without permission, obviously if there are people
> >> > willing to support, surely they wouldn't have issues with gaining
more
> >> > recognition from supporting others as well...
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >  evilbunny
> MP> mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
> >> >
> >> > http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
> >> > http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
> >> > http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
> >> >
> >> > Tuesday, November 26, 2002, 9:44:27 AM, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> > SH> As the data is commercial property, sharing the data would mean
> MP> piracy. I
> >> > SH> will not do anything like this that may put Melbourne Wireless in
> MP> disrepute.
> >> >
> >> > SH> People pay big money for this data, that we were very lucky to
get.
> >> >
> >> > SH> Signed,
> >> > SH> Steven Haigh
> >> > SH> http://wireless.org.au
> >> > SH> (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > SH> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > SH> From: "evilbunny" <evilbunny at sydneywireless.com>
> >> > SH> To: "Steven Haigh" <netwiz at optusnet.com.au>
> >> > SH> Cc: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> >> > SH> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:28 AM
> >> > SH> Subject: Re[2]: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >> Hello Steven,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What no sharing so others can benefit from it?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Best regards,
> >> > >>  evilbunny
> MP> mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
> >> > >>
> >> > >> http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
> >> > >> http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
> >> > >> http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Monday, November 25, 2002, 10:32:36 PM, you wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> I think the main difference is that nodedb.com still relies on
> >> > SH> mapblast (or
> >> > >> SH> whoever) for their maps... while this is good and works well,
it
> MP> has
> >> > SH> nothing
> >> > >> SH> like the detail that can be achieved by using our own data.
The
> MP> data
> >> > SH> in
> >> > >> SH> question covers everything from street names, major features
to
> MP> house
> >> > >> SH> divisions - where you can zoom down to the block where your
> >> > >> SH> house/node/whatever is... This detail is just not available
from
> MP> any
> >> > SH> other
> >> > >> SH> source...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> This also means that if mapblast goes down, then our maps
don't
> MP> go
> >> > SH> down...
> >> > >> SH> It also gives much more flexibility...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> NodeDB is great, but it's much better for Melbourne Wireless
to
> MP> have
> >> > >> SH> detailed maps of Melbourne & Victoria, than anywhere else in
the
> >> > SH> world -
> >> > >> SH> because that's where it's of most use to members and followers
of
> >> > SH> Melbourne
> >> > >> SH> Wireless...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> I don't think this is re-inventing the wheel at all, it's more
a
> >> > SH> greatly
> >> > >> SH> improved bearings and suspension.... they all do the same job,
> MP> but why
> >> > SH> not
> >> > >> SH> make the ride comfy :)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> Signed,
> >> > >> SH> Steven Haigh
> >> > >> SH> http://wireless.org.au
> >> > >> SH> (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root
Certificate.)
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> SH> From: "Scott Stapleton" <hyrax at westnet.com.au>
> >> > >> SH> To: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> >> > >> SH> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:51 PM
> >> > >> SH> Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >> > From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> >> > >> >> > [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of
James
> MP> Healy
> >> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 11:20 AM
> >> > >> >> > To: MelbWireless
> >> > >> >> > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > rejoice.. be merry.. locfinder v2 is almost upon us...
> >> > >> >> >
> >> > >> >> > v2 is a total rewrite from v1, using php and a MySQL backend.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Not meant to be rude, but why re-invent the wheel. The Nodedb
is
> MP> doing
> >> > >> >> an excellent job of keeping track of nodes. What significant
> >> > >> >> improvements does LOCFinder offer over the NodeDB?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Obviously there is still Sydney vs. Melbourne problems, hence
why
> MP> steve
> >> > >> >> never decided to link to the NodeDB which was massively better
> MP> than
> >> > >> >> LOCFinder v1. Which is why the NodeDB for Melborne has 200-odd
> MP> nodes,
> >> > >> >> instead of the 600 - 800 or whatever the figure is.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> My 2 cents: "More wanky eastern states BS"
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> .. Scott
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >>
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> >> > >> >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> SH> To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
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> >> > >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> barry park
> >> http://wireless.bur.st ||| community wireless project
> >> http://melbourne.wireless.org.au ||| melbourne wireless node bca
> >> -=all your http_get are belong to us=-
> >>
> >>
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