Meanwhile ... Was: Re: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
evilbunny
evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
Tue Nov 26 12:20:26 EST 2002
Hello Matt,
My comments weren't aimed at instigating anything, however there are
quite a few groups in Victoria apart from MW that could make use of
the data as well...
--
Best regards,
evilbunny mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
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Tuesday, November 26, 2002, 11:51:11 AM, you wrote:
MP> Now this is more like a post we should be seeing !!, as a note to all
MP> parties who wish to start trouble between people, keep it off this list. I
MP> am on this list to get communications with like minded people who want to
MP> build wireless networks (although I am severely hampered by inhospitable
MP> terrain (read big hill, big tree's)) anything else is basically a
MP> distraction and unwanted. And while I am here, anyone along Forest Rd in
MP> Boronia (or that can see down into my little valley just of Daffodil Rd) I
MP> want to hear from you so we can get something going around here.
MP> So lets go guys, more building less bickering.
MP> Matt.
MP> ----- Original Message -----
MP> From: "sanbar" <sandbar at ozemail.com.au>
MP> To: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
MP> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:35 AM
MP> Subject: Meanwhile ... Was: Re: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
>> ... petty infighting among diametrically opposed viewpoints aside - and
>> in a pathetic attempt to kill this waste of bandwidth of a thread - the
>> serious business of building a wireless network goes on.
>>
>> Node FZJ was able to make a link to node BCA last night (confirmed by
>> the server logs) via node BHH. It's a distance of about 2.03km from
>> FZJ-BCA, but via Vak it's about 2.33km. Next step is the jump to
>> Fitzroy/Thornbury/Northcote.
>>
>> Grunties, ffs get an omni up!
>>
>> Innernorth roqz. Everyone else sux. Now that's the sort of mailing list
>> flame bait we need.
>> - Barry
>>
>> On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 09:52, evilbunny wrote:
>> > Hello Steven,
>> >
>> > I didn't mean share without permission, obviously if there are people
>> > willing to support, surely they wouldn't have issues with gaining more
>> > recognition from supporting others as well...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > evilbunny
MP> mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
>> >
>> > http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
>> > http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
>> > http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
>> >
>> > Tuesday, November 26, 2002, 9:44:27 AM, you wrote:
>> >
>> > SH> As the data is commercial property, sharing the data would mean
MP> piracy. I
>> > SH> will not do anything like this that may put Melbourne Wireless in
MP> disrepute.
>> >
>> > SH> People pay big money for this data, that we were very lucky to get.
>> >
>> > SH> Signed,
>> > SH> Steven Haigh
>> > SH> http://wireless.org.au
>> > SH> (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
>> >
>> >
>> > SH> ----- Original Message -----
>> > SH> From: "evilbunny" <evilbunny at sydneywireless.com>
>> > SH> To: "Steven Haigh" <netwiz at optusnet.com.au>
>> > SH> Cc: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>> > SH> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:28 AM
>> > SH> Subject: Re[2]: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
>> >
>> >
>> > >> Hello Steven,
>> > >>
>> > >> What no sharing so others can benefit from it?
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >> evilbunny
MP> mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
>> > >> http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
>> > >> http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom
>> > >>
>> > >> Monday, November 25, 2002, 10:32:36 PM, you wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> I think the main difference is that nodedb.com still relies on
>> > SH> mapblast (or
>> > >> SH> whoever) for their maps... while this is good and works well, it
MP> has
>> > SH> nothing
>> > >> SH> like the detail that can be achieved by using our own data. The
MP> data
>> > SH> in
>> > >> SH> question covers everything from street names, major features to
MP> house
>> > >> SH> divisions - where you can zoom down to the block where your
>> > >> SH> house/node/whatever is... This detail is just not available from
MP> any
>> > SH> other
>> > >> SH> source...
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> This also means that if mapblast goes down, then our maps don't
MP> go
>> > SH> down...
>> > >> SH> It also gives much more flexibility...
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> NodeDB is great, but it's much better for Melbourne Wireless to
MP> have
>> > >> SH> detailed maps of Melbourne & Victoria, than anywhere else in the
>> > SH> world -
>> > >> SH> because that's where it's of most use to members and followers of
>> > SH> Melbourne
>> > >> SH> Wireless...
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> I don't think this is re-inventing the wheel at all, it's more a
>> > SH> greatly
>> > >> SH> improved bearings and suspension.... they all do the same job,
MP> but why
>> > SH> not
>> > >> SH> make the ride comfy :)
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> Signed,
>> > >> SH> Steven Haigh
>> > >> SH> http://wireless.org.au
>> > >> SH> (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> SH> From: "Scott Stapleton" <hyrax at westnet.com.au>
>> > >> SH> To: "'MelbWireless'" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>> > >> SH> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:51 PM
>> > >> SH> Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> > From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
>> > >> >> > [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of James
MP> Healy
>> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 11:20 AM
>> > >> >> > To: MelbWireless
>> > >> >> > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] locfinder v2 beta
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > rejoice.. be merry.. locfinder v2 is almost upon us...
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > v2 is a total rewrite from v1, using php and a MySQL backend.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Not meant to be rude, but why re-invent the wheel. The Nodedb is
MP> doing
>> > >> >> an excellent job of keeping track of nodes. What significant
>> > >> >> improvements does LOCFinder offer over the NodeDB?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Obviously there is still Sydney vs. Melbourne problems, hence why
MP> steve
>> > >> >> never decided to link to the NodeDB which was massively better
MP> than
>> > >> >> LOCFinder v1. Which is why the NodeDB for Melborne has 200-odd
MP> nodes,
>> > >> >> instead of the 600 - 800 or whatever the figure is.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> My 2 cents: "More wanky eastern states BS"
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> .. Scott
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
>> > >> >> with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> SH> To unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo at wireless.org.au
>> > >> SH> with "unsubscribe melbwireless" in the body of the message
>> > >>
>> --
>>
>> barry park
>> http://wireless.bur.st ||| community wireless project
>> http://melbourne.wireless.org.au ||| melbourne wireless node bca
>> -=all your http_get are belong to us=-
>>
>>
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