[MLB-WIRELESS] [TECH] Dipole antennas, and melbwireless structure

[Drew]

Are you actually saying you want a private, elite, network? If so, 
you're in the wrong place. Ditto for the classes of service. There 
should not be any "priority" access, and there won't be, as I doubt 
you'll find many people that will participate in that. If your aim is to 
split the network in two, that's quite unfortunate.

-D

Ben Anderson wrote:

>I want a ubiquitous public network.  Your goals seem to be somewhat
>different.  They're sort of mutually incompatible.  Public, give it to
>everyone, or private, elite 'only technical capable people altruistic enough
>to particpate' are allowed to join.
>I'm not advocating charging money for it, anyone who wants to connect can
>grab the 30dollar card that's compatible with an interface to the network in
>their area, and start leeching.  They just don't get low-latency 'priority'
>access to the system until they actually provide something.  Altruistic
>providers could donate their mojo back to disadvantaged nodes.  I don't
>think it's fundamentally less 'free' -- I think it's more free, and
>encourages network building as part of the design instead of relying on
>altruism.
>
>A UPN is my ideal endpoint goal.  Can you more accuratly detail what your
>endpoint goal is?
>
>Ben.
>
>
>>>otherwise, there
>>>needs to be something to cause the network to scale **socially** -- ie
>>>
>most
>
>>>people need some sort of motivation to roll out better network
>>>infrastructure -- if there's no motivation to engineer more bandwidth in
>>>congested areas, then the network will die off as it gets large, it will
>>>become disconnected and disjoined into smaller areas.
>>>As far as I see it, we can either have a 'mojo' like system, or have a
>>>"test" that people have to take before they get to use the network to
>>>guarantee that the people are altruistic enough to donate to the system
>>>
>when
>
>>>they don't have to.
>>>
>>i *highly* disagree, one of the main reasons of joining this network is
>>to create something that's better than what's currently available in
>>australia, if people are setting up a node now, they're doing it to help
>>the network (and themselves, yes). i think people already understand how
>>cool this is without the need for forced motivation. if you want to go
>>that route, move to sydney where they charge everyone $100 to join the
>>network so that they can buy AP's, because they think nobody else will
>>do it on their own. if there comes a time when the network is so popular
>>that it starts getting congested, of course people are going to do some
>>longer range links out of it. but in all reality this point will be
>>moot, as the network will actually be the reverse of this. in the
>>beginning most links *will* be long range, and the short range
>>congestion will only happen after the network is quite popular, hence,
>>the problem never occurs.
>>
>>-D
>>
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