[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: [Syd-Wireless] RE: [Syd-Wire] ITNews Story.

[evilbunny]

Hello Random,

had nothing to do with petty personal squabbles... and those lines
were said off the record and asked for retraction after I was sent a
copy and he still posted them...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny                            mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Tuesday, July 23, 2002, 4:08:43 PM, you wrote:


R> I am absolutely disgusted with this article! Ryan you will note, I am
R> absolutely opposed to your take on it as well. 

R> I cannot believe that Duane you have taken a PETTY PERSONAL squabble so
R> belligerently into an open forum! What on earth did you expect to
R> achieve by voicing your personal views on this to the media? Did you
R> seriously expect it to be put into whatever context you may believe you
R> said it in? Did you believe for a moment it would not be taken as the
R> official view of Sydney Wireless? Did you think for a second even it
R> would help our perception in any way what so ever?!

R> Here I was not so long ago comforting another Sydney Wireless new-comer
R> about how it *is* possible to work with certain people in 'SW' without
R> issue!?

R> This is disgusting! If Duane you were **actually** elected to the
R> position you hold in Sydney Wireless I would be the first person
R> petitioning for your removal.

R> Unbelievable!

R> Ps. Sorry for cross post. ;(

R> ---
R> Martin Laukkanen (random at sectoid.org)

R> -----Original Message-----
R> From: xfesty [mailto:xfesty at computeraddictions.com.au] 
R> Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2002 3:48 PM
R> To: syd-wireless at lists.sydneywireless.com
R> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
R> Subject: [Syd-Wireless] ITNews Story.


R> http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10341

R> Just read that URL.  I'm a slight bit peeved after reading it.  I don't
R> understand how one man could make Melb Wireless look so freakin' bad.

R> I think this one quote is relevant, where the incompetency shines out:

>> Melbourne Wireless president Steven Haigh said his organisation is not
R> trying to undercut the ISPs. "At the moment, we are not trying to rival
R> the
R> ISPS at all," he said.
>> "Not yet, but you never know what happens," he added.

R> ....thankyou for the great representation of community networks, Mr.
R> "War on ISP's".

R> I've not heard a lot from Haigh, but I've heard him *continually*
R> contradict
R> himself, and generally make Melbourne Wireless (and community wireless
R> groups in general) look very taunting to telecommunication corporations.
R> Its evident even in that one article.  Thank god Duane has half a clue
R> on
R> how to explain things, which stopped the article from going the way it
R> seemed to be headed.

R> I'm strongly of the opinion that Haigh may mean the end of free
R> community
R> wireless in Australia.  Statements that he makes *all the time* is going
R> to
R> get us killed.  The reason we are here is because this is a hobby, not
R> because we're deliberately trying to rip off a company.  Our represented
R> attitudes is directly dependent on how the 'giants' handle us.  I
R> honestly
R> do believe its possible that they could kill us completely off, if they
R> wanted.

R> Melb Wireless - I'm not sure if I'm the only one who feels this way, but
R> you
R> may want to re-evaluate who you have as your head man.  Remember - these
R> people are representing YOU, and the future of community networks.
R> Personally I'm satisfied with people like Craig and Duane, who in
R> media-type
R> situations have expressed the community's general interest accurately,
R> and
R> not make us look like a bunch of warez kiddies.  That's certainly not
R> why
R> I'm here.

R> My general problem is the fact that anything Haigh says to represent
R> Melb Wireless just doesn't nessecarily reflect them; it actually
R> reflects any community group in Australia.  And as a result of that, we
R> get the repercussions of such statements that he may make.  I'm not
R> comfortable with that, or the way things may be headed if this keeps up.

R> I think we all need to look at the big picture again and realise why we
R> want
R> this.  People are getting a /tad/ distracted.

R> - Ryan
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