[MLB-WIRELESS] RE: [Syd-Wire] ITNews Story.

[Random]

I am absolutely disgusted with this article! Ryan you will note, I am
absolutely opposed to your take on it as well. 

I cannot believe that Duane you have taken a PETTY PERSONAL squabble so
belligerently into an open forum! What on earth did you expect to
achieve by voicing your personal views on this to the media? Did you
seriously expect it to be put into whatever context you may believe you
said it in? Did you believe for a moment it would not be taken as the
official view of Sydney Wireless? Did you think for a second even it
would help our perception in any way what so ever?!

Here I was not so long ago comforting another Sydney Wireless new-comer
about how it *is* possible to work with certain people in 'SW' without
issue!?

This is disgusting! If Duane you were **actually** elected to the
position you hold in Sydney Wireless I would be the first person
petitioning for your removal.

Unbelievable!

Ps. Sorry for cross post. ;(

---
Martin Laukkanen (random at sectoid.org)

-----Original Message-----
From: xfesty [mailto:xfesty at computeraddictions.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2002 3:48 PM
To: syd-wireless at lists.sydneywireless.com
Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Subject: [Syd-Wireless] ITNews Story.


http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=10341

Just read that URL.  I'm a slight bit peeved after reading it.  I don't
understand how one man could make Melb Wireless look so freakin' bad.

I think this one quote is relevant, where the incompetency shines out:

> Melbourne Wireless president Steven Haigh said his organisation is not
trying to undercut the ISPs. "At the moment, we are not trying to rival
the
ISPS at all," he said.
> "Not yet, but you never know what happens," he added.

....thankyou for the great representation of community networks, Mr.
"War on ISP's".

I've not heard a lot from Haigh, but I've heard him *continually*
contradict
himself, and generally make Melbourne Wireless (and community wireless
groups in general) look very taunting to telecommunication corporations.
Its evident even in that one article.  Thank god Duane has half a clue
on
how to explain things, which stopped the article from going the way it
seemed to be headed.

I'm strongly of the opinion that Haigh may mean the end of free
community
wireless in Australia.  Statements that he makes *all the time* is going
to
get us killed.  The reason we are here is because this is a hobby, not
because we're deliberately trying to rip off a company.  Our represented
attitudes is directly dependent on how the 'giants' handle us.  I
honestly
do believe its possible that they could kill us completely off, if they
wanted.

Melb Wireless - I'm not sure if I'm the only one who feels this way, but
you
may want to re-evaluate who you have as your head man.  Remember - these
people are representing YOU, and the future of community networks.
Personally I'm satisfied with people like Craig and Duane, who in
media-type
situations have expressed the community's general interest accurately,
and
not make us look like a bunch of warez kiddies.  That's certainly not
why
I'm here.

My general problem is the fact that anything Haigh says to represent
Melb Wireless just doesn't nessecarily reflect them; it actually
reflects any community group in Australia.  And as a result of that, we
get the repercussions of such statements that he may make.  I'm not
comfortable with that, or the way things may be headed if this keeps up.

I think we all need to look at the big picture again and realise why we
want
this.  People are getting a /tad/ distracted.

- Ryan

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