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supporting digital transmission modes. The ACA is attempting to
disallow them.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au [mailto:owner-
> melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
> Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 15:45
> To: David
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] No digital for new radio amateurs
>
> I think this is just another way to limit available technology to make
the
> 'old-timers' happy. After the stink fight about foundation licenses
> because it would 'pollute' the amateur spectrum, even more people are
> whining that you need to know outdated and obsolete technology to use
a
> radio.
>
> Digital is the future, and this scares a lot of old-timer amateurs.
They
> want you to know the ins and outs of radios before you can have the
> privilege of a computer doing digital transmissions for you.
>
> It's a classic ploy to keep the status quo, no matter what the cost.
>
> David said:
> > You already have amateurs using it, 2400 to 2450 is the amateur band
and
> > we
> > have a power limit of 120W plus ant gain.
> >
> > David
> > VK3JDA
> >
> >
> > At 13:38 11/07/2004, Paul James wrote:
> >>Isn't the point of the ISM bands to allow EVERYONE to use them, not
just
> >>someone with an AR licence.
> >>
> >>I don't think the ACA would be popular if they required you to have
an
> AR
> >>licence to run a 2.4Ghz Access Point or wireless telephone.
> >>
> >>If we have amateurs using the ISM bands with high powered
transmitters
> it
> >>could make them unusable for rest of the community.
> >>
> >>Just my 2c
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Paul.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> >>[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of
> >>jlinton at iprimus.com.au
> >>Sent: Sunday, 11 July 2004 10:55 AM
> >>To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> >>Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] No digital for new radio amateurs
> >>
> >>
> >>No digital for new radio amateurs
> >>
> >>The Australian Communications Authority (ACA) has rejected strong
> support
> >>from existing radio amateurs to include digital modes of
transmission in
> >>its proposed new amateur radio entry level or Foundation Licence.
> >>
> >>The details are contained in the ACA's "Outcomes of the Review of
the
> >>Amateur Service Regulation" on the ACA's website.
> >>
> >>A telephony and hand-key Morse licence won't be attractive. It must
also
> >>allow the use of digital modes and the 2.4GHz and 5.6GHz bands.
> >>
> >>The ACA wants to restrict new entrants to Amateur Radio to the
analogue
> >> age
> >>and hand-key telegraphy age. This will deny them use of an enormous
> range
> >>of software based options currently available, and continuing to
emerge.
> >>
> >>Do you have an opinion? The ACA is receiving comment on its
proposals
> via
> >>email at amateurs at aca.gov.au
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > VK3JDA
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> Steven Haigh
>
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radios before you can have the<BR>> privilege of a computer doing =
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>>From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au<BR>> >>[<A =0A=
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melbwireless at wireless.org.au<BR>> =0A=
>>Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] No digital for new radio =
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amateurs<BR>> >><BR>> >>The Australian Communications =0A=
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existing radio amateurs to include digital modes of<BR>transmission =
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Regulation" on =0A=
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hand-key =0A=
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>>The ACA wants to restrict new entrants to Amateur Radio to =0A=
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telegraphy =0A=
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