[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwireless Digest, Vol 38, Issue 4

Tue Nov 4 17:43:04 EST 2008

i should have my ultrawap on my mast by the 9th, pointed at Port A.
set in AP mode. look for SSID= JTQ.melbwireless

-Barty, NODE JTQ

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:00 PM,  <melbwireless-request at wireless.org.au> wrote:
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>   1. Re: Long distance links (Peter Buncle)
>   2. Re: Long distance links (Mike Everest)
>   3. Re: Long distance links (Ben Balbo)
>   4. roaming between 2 AP's? (Mark Aitken)
>   5. Re: Long distance links (Mike Everest)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:57:06 +1100
> From: "Peter Buncle" <peter at nmc.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Long distance links
> To: "Ben Balbo" <ben at benbalbo.com>, <mike at viewbankrise.net.au>,
>        <thekingoffoxes at gmail.com>
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
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> Hi Ben,
>
> (For those interested I'll be showing a
> radio mobile demo at this Friday's (14th) MW meeting
> And I'm put the images up on mw at
> )
>
>
>
> I've done some plotting with radio mobile
> and I don't think the nearest trees are your problem.
>
> You really need to get a note on the nearby hill ,
> It'll then cover all of port arlington and provide
> a great bounce point to melbourne.
>
> If you can start researching the site we can provide
> The expertise and equipment to get it running.
>
> See the plots at;
>
> http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/files/Images/Radio_Mobile_Plots/Geel
> ong_to_Melbourne/Port_Arlington_Plots/image1.JPG
>
> http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/files/Images/Radio_Mobile_Plots/Geel
> ong_to_Melbourne/Port_Arlington_Plots/image2.JPG
>
> http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/files/Images/Radio_Mobile_Plots/Geel
> ong_to_Melbourne/Port_Arlington_Plots/image3.JPG
>
> http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/files/Images/Radio_Mobile_Plots/Geel
> ong_to_Melbourne/Port_Arlington_Plots/image4.JPG
>
>
> Ben, can you visit the hill and take photo's and enquire about
> access / power ?
>
> You'll be amazed what may happen if your nice and just ask.
> (get a name / contact number if you manage to contact someone)
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Vice President
> Melbourne Wireless
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: melbwireless-bounces at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:melbwireless-bounces at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Ben Balbo
> Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2008 11:24 AM
> To: mike at viewbankrise.net.au
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Long distance links
>
> mw at freenet.net.au wrote:
>> The location I tried is listed on the MW site as node KBV
>> (http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/maps/view?id=KBV)
>
> I've created KBY (http://www.melbournewireless.org.au/maps/view?id=KBY)
>
>> Corner of Batman/Willis looks pretty good - you have just enough
>> altitude that you might be able to get over the nearest trees (see
>> attached)
>
> No attachment?
>
>> If you can find an SSID of 'freenet.net.au', then you have a lock on
>> us :)
>
> I won't be down in Port again for a while, but when I do I'll start
> looking...
>
> BB
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:26 +1100
> From: "Mike Everest" <mw at freenet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Long distance links
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
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> Hi Peter,
>
>> I've done some plotting with radio mobile
>> and I don't think the nearest trees are your problem.
>
> As far as tests I made from nearby Ben's location, it was the trees for sure
> since I could connect to an AP a few hundred m south of KBN but no sign of
> KBN itself.  From my viewpoint, I could clearly see the lovely banks ridge
> between a break in the trees (which was probably where that other AP was
> coming through)
>
> Looking at your terrain plot, though, seems like there is a bit of high
> ground that may block my place from Ben too :(
>
> How accurate is that terrain data?
>
>> You really need to get a note on the nearby hill ,
>> It'll then cover all of port arlington and provide
>> a great bounce point to melbourne.
>
> That's for sure - it would be a perfect spot.
>
>> If you can start researching the site we can provide
>> The expertise and equipment to get it running.
>>
>> See the plots at;
>
> Nice plots - I wish I had software like that a couple of years back when I
> could have really used something like it back then :)
>
> So is the software selecting the radio parameters to determine what is
> required to make the link work, or do you need to plug in those details to
> experiment with different arrangements?  I guess I'll be able to see it for
> myself next week ;-)
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:33:43 +1100
> From: Ben Balbo <ben at benbalbo.com>
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Long distance links
> To: Peter Buncle <peter at nmc.net.au>
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au, mike at viewbankrise.net.au,
>        thekingoffoxes at gmail.com
> Message-ID: <490F8A57.90704 at benbalbo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Peter!
>
>> (For those interested I'll be showing a
>> radio mobile demo at this Friday's (14th) MW meeting
>> And I'm put the images up on mw at
>> )
>
> Awesome - I'll be there!
>
>> You really need to get a note on the nearby hill ,
>> It'll then cover all of port arlington and provide
>> a great bounce point to melbourne.
>
> Mike: that seems to be around the corner of Tower Rd and Alison St. I've
> emailed some friends in Port to see if they know anyone that lives near
> there - don't suppose you or your friend do?
>
>> Ben, can you visit the hill and take photo's and enquire about
>> access / power ?
>>
>> You'll be amazed what may happen if your nice and just ask.
>> (get a name / contact number if you manage to contact someone)
>
> I'll be in Port on the 15th so I'll take photos and, unless I find Mike
> or I know someone there, will canvas the houses in the area.
>
> The MW meeting the night before will be a great opportunity to find out
> as much as possible in order to help me sell the idea ;-)
>
> Cheers
> BB
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:35:26 +1100
> From: Mark Aitken <nodegxt at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] roaming between 2 AP's?
> To: Melb Wireless <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
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> Gday,
>
> I have 2 AP's within my house,  one upstairs for my kids and one
> downstairs for me.
>
> I would like to be able to have any wireless device connect to the best
> suited AP at the time,
> ie, roaming.
>
> Is it just a matter of having the same SSID and Security Key and just
> let the laptop/pda just
> do it's thing or is there more to it?
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:58:14 +1100
> From: "Mike Everest" <mw at freenet.net.au>
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Long distance links
> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> Message-ID: <003601c93e18$6a966c30$3fc34490$@net.au>
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> Hi Ben,
>
>> > You really need to get a note on the nearby hill , It'll then cover
>> > all of port arlington and provide a great bounce point to melbourne.
>>
>> Mike: that seems to be around the corner of Tower Rd and Alison St.
>> I've emailed some friends in Port to see if they know anyone that lives
>> near there - don't suppose you or your friend do?
>
> My friend lives on the lowest end of Batman.  Me?  I'm in Lovely Banks -
> 30Km west of you! ;-)
>
>> The MW meeting the night before will be a great opportunity to find out
>> as much as possible in order to help me sell the idea ;-)
>
> See you there! :)
>
> Cheers,  Mike.
>
>
>
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