[MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Access

[Winder]

It appears for a few reasons.

- New people think MW is free wireless internet.
- There is little content on MW so people want internet access to use it for something

If MW wants to give free internet access, then go for it. It might actually make the network grow at a rate unseen in MW before. It might actually make it into a real Wireles MAN with something to use it for.

Regards,
g at z.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of
dawid at bigpond.net.au
Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2005 9:37 PM
To: ivile01 at yahoo.com.au
Cc: darrend at ndpgroup.com.au; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Access


To be totally frank i dont know! I havent been in Australia much this year?!?!?!?

But i am glad that this issue is being discussed so openly, i think it is healthy for the group. There are a few questions that need to be asked:
Why is this issue of MW ISP reappearing all the time?
Have the demands of the MW community changed and evolved?
Will this evolution be permitted and more so will it benefit the MW community long term?

I do hope that some of the suggestions be taken up and implemented, especially with cash flow. As a little cash always helps and will ensure the future of MW.

Im more than happy to help as a social entrepreneurial project, i think a lot can be done with the right support. Im back in late August, let me know and ill get started while in EU.

Ciao
Dav

---- "Brenton D." <ivile01 at yahoo.com.au> wrote: 
> How many people turn up to the meets?
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http://bur.st/~ivile (waveguides) | http://ivile.bur.st | 
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http://ivile.bur.st/ivile/64/ (my car)
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http://www.melbourne.wireless.org.au/users/?ivile
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----- Original Message ----- 
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From: <dawid at bigpond.net.au>
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To: "Brenton D." <ivile01 at yahoo.com.au>; "Darren Dreis" 
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<darrend at ndpgroup.com.au>; <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Access
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> OK OK OK Lucent is a great example, what I am saying is it should be a 
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> monthly excercise.
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> Raffle is a great idea, keep the ideas coming everyone. But i suggest that 
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> we focus on the 21st century way of creating cash rather than your local 
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> pub. How about creating a monthly Melbourne Wireless Newsletter, with 
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> updates on what happened at the monthly meet, about what our wise 
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> committee has decided, what issues exist, what happened over the last 
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> month, what is planned over the nxt month (ie next guest speaker :) ). How 
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> many people do we have in our MW database? 300? With a distribution list 
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> of 300 happy readers who are all interested wireless, radios and last mile 
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> IP solutions, i will bet that we can get radio shack or Dick Smiths to 
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> advertise each month on the newsletter. Charge $200 bucks each month for 
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> direct marketing (which is damn cheap, try putting an add in the paper), 
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> if we get 3 companies thats $600 a month and thats $7200 a year and we get 
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> an informative newsletter so that no one is in the dark. I think its time 
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> that MW start to use its database if it wants !
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> to survive and create some exciting projects in the future.
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> Lets grasp the power of the internet and use it to our advantage. There 
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> are millions of ideas just like this one. I never again want to hear 
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> within this wonderful community that we cant do something because we dont 
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> have the resources. Its bollucks, simply the committe needs to take these 
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> ideas and be pro-active and if not than admit that they cant handle it and 
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> then invite more people to help run this organisation.
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> Dav
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> ps
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> its stopped raining here :)~
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> ---- "Brenton D." <ivile01 at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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>> Just i thing about raising money, MW should have some more raffles, I 
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>> could
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>> supply a wave-guide at material cost price then at a meet you could sell
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>> tickets to win it a $5 each or something?
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>> Dav, don't forget Lucent Technologies, i don't think you can get much 
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>> better
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>> than them.
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>> ivile01 at yahoo.com.au | ivile at ivile.bur.st
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>> http://bur.st/~ivile (waveguides) | http://ivile.bur.st |
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>> http://ivile.bur.st/ivile/64/ (my car)
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>> http://www.melbourne.wireless.org.au/users/?ivile
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
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>> From: "Darren Dreis" <darrend at ndpgroup.com.au>
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>> To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:12 PM
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>> Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Access
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>> > -----Original Message-----
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>> > From: Dan Flett [mailto:conhoolio at hotmail.com]
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>> > Sent: Tuesday, 28 June 2005 12:27 PM
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>> > To: Darren Dreis; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
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>> > Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Access
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>> >>>I don't think that keeping the authorities satisfied is by any means
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>> > going to be a walk in the park, but if >>we think about it in a 
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>> > positive
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>> > way, explore the posibilites, and start to formulate a plan, we may 
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>> > well
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>> > be >>able to come up with something that works.
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>> > Yes technically anything is possible. I have no doubt we have the
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>> > technical expertise within the group to come up with a solution that
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>> > should be acceptable. My point really is that many people seem to think
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>> > the 'non-commercial' clause means the rules don't apply to us at all.
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>> >>>How much administration is required?  If we keep logs, verify and
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>> > authenticate users, and only allow limited >>access to the Internet, I
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>> > believe we can keep the administrative overhead down.
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>> > I'm not one for writing proverbs... But there should be a confucius
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>> > saying for volunteer/community groups that says: Those that have the
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>> > expertise and are willing to give it for free, are usually those that
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>> > don't have the time available to give it.
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>> >>>How about people come up with some ideas about how to make this work,
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>> > rather than thinking about how it's
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>> >>>not going to work?
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>> > Not saying it cant work.... Merely why?
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>> > Right now the technical details are irrelevant, if and when we get to
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>> > this point, those issues will need to be resolved to the satisfaction 
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>> > of
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>> > the AG's dept, ACA, and ASIO
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>> > Personally I don't believe it's appropriate for MW right now.
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