[MLB-WIRELESS] Building the MW Network

[rick]

im no longer on the committie previous growth ideas where installfests 
with the linux community and going to lans no idea what future ones will 
be email the committee

Lee Honan wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for responding.  I wasn't suggesting that Internet access 
> should be offered as commercial-grade or the only reason to join.  I 
> guess your point re MP3s implies that Universities no longer route 
> Internet traffic.  Obviously the only way to protect against nodes 
> shifting is to have redundancy in the network (which requires it to 
> grow in the first place).  Being new to MW, I haven't been privy to 
> past discussions on this topic (will look in archives)- did any 
> constructive ideas come of it?  Is there a strategy to grow MW?
>
> Lee
>
> rick wrote:
>
>> lee the points you made have been brought up before, if we offer 
>> Internet we cant supply it to all the areas and can offer any QoS or 
>> any garentee that the person will even get a link, with costs of 
>> equipment going up to 500$ for a good setup, unlimited Internet for a 
>> year will be about the same costs.
>>
>> if we use a university network and you transfure a mp3 well the uni 
>> can be sued, so its a can of worms they dont want to be a carrier for
>>
>> as for the core network when we had GUR for example shift location, 
>> the network nearby collapsed as we where to dependent :(
>>
>> Lee Honan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been fiddling around for the last month, trying to get a 
>>> routing node up in Carlton (JDS).  After putting up an 8m rooftop 
>>> mast with a 25dbi parabolic and a 15dbi Omni, figuring out the 
>>> vagaries of OpenWRT etc, I have been looking for a node to connect 
>>> to.  While I have found a lot of APs, I could only find one MW node 
>>> (HVC) and am at too oblique an angle to get a good signal.
>>>
>>> So despite being in a central location with good line-of-sight North 
>>> and South, a high mast, decent antennae etc, I can't find a node to 
>>> link to.  Looking at the link maps, there are a lot of isolated 
>>> nodes with relatively few operating links.  That got me wondering if 
>>> MW is in danger of being limited to a clique of enthusiasts, and 
>>> what needs to happen for MW to achieve critical mass.  If this 
>>> navel-gazing topic hasn't been broached recently, it would seem to 
>>> be a worthwhile discussion.
>>>
>>> Some possibilities I've thought of (my relative ignorance may mean 
>>> these are infeasible):
>>>
>>>     * Provide a more compelling offer for people to join.  I don't
>>>       understand why providing Internet access seems to be poo-pooed
>>>       on the MW site; while it has obvious challenges (e.g. finding an
>>>       ISP- APANA?), it's the most obvious reason for people to invest
>>>       the time and $.
>>>     * Identify tall structures that members have access to and invest
>>>       in panels etc to create perhaps 5 'core nodes' (perhaps fund
>>>       with higher member fee that includes free access as above- e.g.
>>>       I think most would happily pay $50 pa; maybe higher fees for
>>>       those acting as a leaf only).
>>>     * (maybe a bit far out) Approach Universities etc to act as
>>>       wireless.org.au routing nodes- similar to their role in forming
>>>       the core Internet.  I'm next to Melbourne University, which has
>>>       a lot of 802.11 infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Sorry for dropping such a huge eMail in the festive season...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Lee
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