[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: Providing free *real* internet access to the community...

[Matt Pearce]

rick wrote:

> yeh if someone offered you, but what if you said that they had to donate or
> not access?

Then I guess I donate or dont access, its just that simple !!

> someone has to pay for the net, i pay for mine and if someone wants to check
> his emails on the way to work he can use mine 2, he says a small donation to
> who wants net access, where does he draw the line, and matt i do think its
> my busniess if they call there node a melbourne wireless node and start
> making cash out of it. who are we to dictate? we are the 'community' we arnt
> a small busniess starter if they want someone to buy there eq for them well
> wtf are they really here for, i have given stuff away, alot of people have,
> but the idea that someone says i HAVE to give them a cisco wireless card
> well we are a community not a charity,

Who ever said anything about making cash ??  The only inference I ever 
saw was that of recovering costs, something which is not unreasonable. 
You have taken a whole wrong tilt on this subject, it was never about 
making money, it was about recovering costs, and if you choose to donate 
equipment then that is your choice and one that you are free to make.

> everything i say is of my own mind and well matt are you charging for your
> wireless?

Nope, I cant get a connection out of this hole, and if I did that would 
be my choice, yet again it would be only to recover costs.

> as for being narrow matt can you donate some money to me to cover my
> wireless equipment? infact i will like a donation as well for any future
> equipment i buy, come on, get real, even sydney guys arnt that bad that they
> would foce people to donate to other people just to get on the mesh/online

Why would I want to donate anything to you ??  There is no reason for to 
do so, and how exactly do you "force" someone to donate ??  Hand up the 
back perhaps ??

> if someone is shareing FREE net then it is free, its not free if it has a
> stupid catch, agree or not matt?

Net access could be free, the cost of providing it is not.

> "While you might have this dream that net access be free, someone
> somewhere has to pay for it, why should this not be the end users ??
> Are you honestly expecting someone to spend hundreds if not thousands of
> dollars, plus a lot of time and effort to be able to give people access
> to the internet and incur a loss for their generosity ??  Wake up and
> smell the roses, this is the real world."

> maybe you should look at what the real world is doing, personaltelco
> seattlewireless are just 2 examples

I applude there efforts, but why do we have to do it like them ??  Last 
time I checked we wernt seattlewireless, we are melbourne wireless, and 
thus we do things how it works for us.

Matt.


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