[MLB-WIRELESS] Funding of nodes

[Matt]

Firstly, I'm not saying that Sneeze is undeserving of support and I'm not 
on the committee and as far as I remember, Ryans in the innernorth and I'll 
one day hopefully be able to connect to him.
I understand that the use of mw money is fairly discretionary but do we 
want to set a precedent for subsidising members nodes? Who decides who's 
eligible and under what criteria? As far as I understand it GHO wouldn't 
have been possible without someone paying something and it does provide 
valuable links to most of Melbourne.

I think it would be more appropriate for nodes that feel they need help to 
ask around among the people who are connected to them for contributions for 
the services they provide. I don't want to start the whole internet access 
thread again but I thought mw had agreed that it wasn't going to provide 
internet access, subsidising someone (through mw directly) to do this isn't 
what the group is about as far as I understand.

I think it might be a good idea to differentiate between the network and 
the services being offered on it. I'd suggest that VIX access would fall 
under services. Electricity etc, are costs that every node needs to pay.

I'd be happy to contribute to the costs of other nodes for extra services 
they provided if I was one of the folks that used those services.

Anyway, my 2c.

Matt



At 12:40 AM 14/11/2003, Steven Haigh wrote:
>oh - and one more thing... keeping in mind that node GHO gets $50 a quarter
>for electricity usage, then I believe $15 a month for Sneeze is very fair.
>
>Signed,
>Steven Haigh
>http://wireless.org.au
>(Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
>
>You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
>We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
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>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Haigh" <netwiz at optusnet.com.au>
>To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>Cc: <committee at wireless.org.au>
>Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Funding of nodes
>
>
> > Actually, I'll specify what I'm proposing a bit more clearly what I have
>in
> > mind.
> >
> > Melbourne Wireless Inc to give Ryan (Sneeze) $15 per month to help with
> > associated costs involved in running his setup. This will help cover
> > expenses such as VIX connectivity, electricity, replacement of connectors
>if
> > required, and general upkeep of the equipment in place - including the
> > services that are offered by Ryan hosted locally at his nodes location.
> >
> > Signed,
> > Steven Haigh
> > http://wireless.org.au
> > (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
> >
> > You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
> > We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
> > I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Haigh" <netwiz at optusnet.com.au>
> > To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:54 PM
> > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Funding of nodes
> >
> >
> > > Looking at the current situation of the committee approving financial
> > > assistance to some nodes (Node GHO), I would like to raise a motion that
> > > Ryan (aka Sneeze) get some funding for his work done on his node. It has
> > > been operational for longer than GHO, and provides a lot of services to
> > > the folks in his area.
> > >
> > > His setup has been the leading single node for quite some time, with
> > > lots of connections, lots of services, and lots of help for getting
> > > people connected.
> > >
> > > Can anyone who is a current financial member second this to bring it to
> > > a vote? Please also CC the second to the committee to make it official.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Signed,
> > > Steven Haigh
> > > http://wireless.org.au
> > > (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)
> > >
> > > You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
> > > We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
> > > I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.
>
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