[MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions and sub domains

Sun Nov 2 01:09:40 EST 2003

Isn't funny how the pot is calling the cattle black? I would like to remind
everyone that as I can recall the previous committee made the same sort of
judgement call on things WITHOUT membership consultation. Yes agree
committee should have conveyed these intentions to members, but albeit I
think the committee has made a right discission, and I congratulate them for
doing this.

How many times we from the foothills (especially Sneeze) had requested
mailing list for our region? And Ryan had to use Yahoo. Who is in control of
mailing list creation then?

Who says we have to totally move domain. We can use both domains can't we?

Cheers

Rob

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From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of rick
Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 6:30 PM
To: Steven Haigh; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions
and sub domains

steve you votes in teh commitee right?, as did other people, the commitee is
there to work on our behalf, they dont need to ask each of us if they can
pick there noses, they are doing what they belive is right on behalf of
melbourne wireless, afterall its not "steve's melbourne wireless" is it? 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 5:41 PM
To: txrx at eridu.net; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Cc: committee at wireless.org.au
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions
and sub domains

ohh - this is great.. I think... but wait... as a paying member of Melbourne
Wireless, where was the consultation of the membership before these rather
major decisions were made? I don't recall hearing anything along these lines
before.. 

All discussions I've had with Tyson, and some other committee members
haven't mentioned anything about changing domain etc... Yes, I was aware you
guys are putting together your own server, and have been for quite some time
- always with the result of 'it's almost ready'... 

As a paying member, I am also disapointed in the current committee for their
lack of voice on most issues. I forget the last time I actually heard what
was going on in the committee, and I certainly haven't heard the direction
in which MW is supposed to be heading.

I think moving domains is a major issue, as we have already established a
major awareness of melbourne.wireless.org.au... I draw inspiration for the
Wireless Institute of Australia (www.wia.org.au) when looking at how I
believe *.wireless.org.au should be set up... The AWA was supposed to be a
voice for all wireless groups, but flopped. Mainly because they were
involved in actually deploying a network.

I have been active in Melbourne Wireless ever since it's inception, but with
the lack of communication between he committee and it's members, there is no
reason for me to even renew my membership at this point - as I don't hear
anything from them anyway. This is a major problem, and needs to be
addressed before thinking about making major changes that threaten the
stability of the group as a whole.

-- 
Signed,
Steven Haigh
http://wireless.org.au
(Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)

You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Troy Mitchell <mailto:txm at optusnet.com.au>  

To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:29 PM

Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains

In the near future, melbourne.wireless.org.au will be hosted on a
different machine than w.o.a, this has been in progress for some
months, Steve is fully aware of this.
We (the MW Committee) have discussed packages, deployment and policy for
the new server and many of the suggestions (including nodexxx domain
redirects) made over the last 12 months have been already been
implemented.
We now own the melbournewireless.org.au domain, and our intention is to
use this as the primary domain on the new server.
All of our mailing lists will also be moved over to the new server as
part of the migration.
Further details coming, when we have them.

Troy Mitchell. 

on behalf of the Melbourne Wireless Committee

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 11:23 AM
To: Steven; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains

I'm probably the best person to answer this at this point....

The current wireless.org.au (w.o.a) was set up very quickly - by three
people working on it at the same time, and completed overnight. This was
because of a hardware failure, and we had no presence. We had to compromise
flexibility for a quick turnaround.

Back then, MW was hosted on w.o.a - but for both political and functionality
reasons, MW was moved to melbourne.w.o.a.. w.o.a is kind of in limbo at this
point until the server is replaced with Evolution 4.

Evolution 4 is the 4th complete rebuild of the w.o.a server since version 1
back in 2000... E4 will have new hardware (and we may need some help
obtaining a few items - specifically 2 x new 80Gb hdd's, raid card etc) but
will be based on a dual P3 800, probably 1Gb of RAM... This should keep up
with requirements for the forseeable future.

On the software side, the security will be greatly improved, as well as
runing latest versions of everything. All groups will be on their
location.w.o.a url, as well as generic mailing lists such as
list at melbourne.w.o.a, list at geelong.w.o.a etc etc. This will hopefully make
thing much simpler for both existing groups, and new groups to use the
services of w.o.a...

As for using nodexxx.w.o.a, under the future plans, it will not be possible
to do this, as it is not group specific... it may happen later down the
track as nodexxx.melbourne.w.o.a, but I can't confirm anything at this
stage.

Signed,
Steven Haigh
http://wireless.org.au
(Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)

You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Steven <mailto:saandss at iinet.net.au>  

To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 

Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:35 AM

Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains

HI,

I was wondering why since the naming convention for node is
nodeXXX.wireless.org.au or XXX.wireless.org.au (XXX=node ID) then why not
make the sub domain link to a web page on the Melbwireless web site. For
example, the address XXX.wireless.org.au could link to the wiki page for
that node. Or at least make that sub domain available for the node owner for
uploading/editing.

Is this possible. I don't see that it would be to hard to add the sub
domains or is there a policy against this.

Regards,

Steve

nodeFSE

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