[MLB-WIRELESS] Reality Bites - Was: node names - conventions and sub domains

[Steven Haigh]

Messageohh - this is great.. I think... but wait... as a paying member of Melbourne Wireless, where was the consultation of the membership before these rather major decisions were made? I don't recall hearing anything along these lines before.. 

All discussions I've had with Tyson, and some other committee members haven't mentioned anything about changing domain etc... Yes, I was aware you guys are putting together your own server, and have been for quite some time - always with the result of 'it's almost ready'... 

As a paying member, I am also disapointed in the current committee for their lack of voice on most issues. I forget the last time I actually heard what was going on in the committee, and I certainly haven't heard the direction in which MW is supposed to be heading.

I think moving domains is a major issue, as we have already established a major awareness of melbourne.wireless.org.au... I draw inspiration for the Wireless Institute of Australia (www.wia.org.au) when looking at how I believe *.wireless.org.au should be set up... The AWA was supposed to be a voice for all wireless groups, but flopped. Mainly because they were involved in actually deploying a network.

I have been active in Melbourne Wireless ever since it's inception, but with the lack of communication between he committee and it's members, there is no reason for me to even renew my membership at this point - as I don't hear anything from them anyway. This is a major problem, and needs to be addressed before thinking about making major changes that threaten the stability of the group as a whole.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Troy Mitchell 
  To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 
  Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:29 PM
  Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


  In the near future, melbourne.wireless.org.au will be hosted on a
  different machine than w.o.a, this has been in progress for some
  months, Steve is fully aware of this.
  We (the MW Committee) have discussed packages, deployment and policy for
  the new server and many of the suggestions (including nodexxx domain
  redirects) made over the last 12 months have been already been
  implemented.
  We now own the melbournewireless.org.au domain, and our intention is to
  use this as the primary domain on the new server.
  All of our mailing lists will also be moved over to the new server as
  part of the migration.
  Further details coming, when we have them.


  Troy Mitchell. 
  on behalf of the Melbourne Wireless Committee

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Steven Haigh
    Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2003 11:23 AM
    To: Steven; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
    Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


    I'm probably the best person to answer this at this point....

    The current wireless.org.au (w.o.a) was set up very quickly - by three people working on it at the same time, and completed overnight. This was because of a hardware failure, and we had no presence. We had to compromise flexibility for a quick turnaround.

    Back then, MW was hosted on w.o.a - but for both political and functionality reasons, MW was moved to melbourne.w.o.a.. w.o.a is kind of in limbo at this point until the server is replaced with Evolution 4.

    Evolution 4 is the 4th complete rebuild of the w.o.a server since version 1 back in 2000... E4 will have new hardware (and we may need some help obtaining a few items - specifically 2 x new 80Gb hdd's, raid card etc) but will be based on a dual P3 800, probably 1Gb of RAM... This should keep up with requirements for the forseeable future.

    On the software side, the security will be greatly improved, as well as runing latest versions of everything. All groups will be on their location.w.o.a url, as well as generic mailing lists such as list at melbourne.w.o.a, list at geelong.w.o.a etc etc. This will hopefully make thing much simpler for both existing groups, and new groups to use the services of w.o.a...

    As for using nodexxx.w.o.a, under the future plans, it will not be possible to do this, as it is not group specific... it may happen later down the track as nodexxx.melbourne.w.o.a, but I can't confirm anything at this stage.

    Signed,
    Steven Haigh
    http://wireless.org.au
    (Visit https://wireless.org.au to install our Root Certificate.)

    You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.
    We have enough youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
    I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steven 
      To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 
      Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:35 AM
      Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] node names - conventions and sub domains


      HI,

      I was wondering why since the naming convention for node is nodeXXX.wireless.org.au or XXX.wireless.org.au (XXX=node ID) then why not make the sub domain link to a web page on the Melbwireless web site. For example, the address XXX.wireless.org.au could link to the wiki page for that node. Or at least make that sub domain available for the node owner for uploading/editing.

      Is this possible. I don't see that it would be to hard to add the sub domains or is there a policy against this.

      Regards,
      Steve
      nodeFSE


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