[MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat

Matt matthew.c.boyd at uts.edu.au
Fri May 16 12:16:14 EST 2003 

If its all fixed then while it is a biggish home network, I don't think you 
need to go routing software crazy. You can probably just set static routes 
to do all you need. Less hassle in the end. Do you really need 180 odd ip 
addresses for DHCP??? you've only got a 16 port switch there. I've got a 
similar setup here. Also, if you can cut back to using a few /28 subnets 
(say 30 or 40ish hosts) and you've actually got something like that number 
of hosts then you can do away with NAT (by requesting a couple of 
melbwireless ip allocations), at least for your connection to melb 
wireless. You can still use iptables/chains for firewalling your home 
network from the big bad wireless world and its not going to make it less 
secure.

Matt



At 10:43 AM 16/5/2003 +1000, -|- Hurgh -|- wrote:
>Any comments on this, just want a little push in the direction that i should
>go so that i know if i should use zebra or not, (do i need it) and if i dont
>need it, should i add anything to the kernel routing table and if so, what>
>
>Thanks
>
>-|- Hurgh -|-
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "-|- Hurgh -|-" <hurgh at oxley.vic.edu.au>
>To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 12:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
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> > Ok, I have done my network plan,
> > Go and have a quick look and if you can suggest what i should do about
> > routing with my Wireless LAN that would be great.
> >
> > I have an ip range from MW, so i will use that for the wireless side i
> > think, but if you have any other sugestions please let me know.
> >
> > The image is located at
> > http://www.hurgh.org/images/network/home_network_diagrams.gif
> > It is only 16.1k or something so it is not a big file.
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "-|- Hurgh -|-" <hurgh at oxley.vic.edu.au>
> > To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> >
> >
> > > Sorry all for the crap diagram, seems that it also got wraped so that
> > > stuffed it up even more :(
> > >
> > > Anyway, later today when i have a free few min, i will draw one up in
> > paint
> > > and then upload it somewhere so that you can go and have a look (i wont
> > send
> > > an attachment to the list it is ok ;))
> > >
> > > More later.
> > >
> > > -|- Hurgh -|-
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ryan Abbenhuys" <sneeze at alphalink.com.au>
> > > To: "-|- Hurgh -|-" <hurgh at oxley.vic.edu.au>; "Richard Van Orsouw"
> > > <Richard.Van.Orsouw at optus.com.au>; <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 3:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dude, couldn't make out that diagram, just do it again in that paint
> > > > program that comes with windows and attach it to another email to me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm probably not as knowledgable about routing etc as others, but i've
> > > been
> > > > mucking around with it long enough that I know how to work it out and
> > > > explain it simply.
> > > >
> > > > >Thanks heaps,
> > > > >
> > > > >I will go check it out now,
> > > > >I have installed Zebra, and shorewall and webmin, and will start to
>do
> >
> > > > come
> > > > >config of it, but i was not sure about zebra, so this will help.
> > > > >I have not got any network diagrams, but i wil attempt some ascii art
> > > > below
> > > > >if you are interested.
> > > > >
> > > > >(Need to view in Plain Text)
> > > > >                                -------------------------
> > > > >----------                |  Existing FBSD Router
> > > > >  -------                   --------------------
> > > > >| Internet |---------- | eth0                      eth1| ------------
>|
> > > > HUB
> > > > >| ----------- | Other Computers |
> > > > >----------                -------------------------
> > > > ----
> > > > >---                  ---------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >|
> > > > >
> > > > >|
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >       ---------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >|        eth0               |
> > > > >
> > > > >| Wireless Router    |
> > > > >
> >                                                     Antenna -----------|
> > > > >eth1 (wireless)      |
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >       --------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >Now if that worked, all i am after is to give access so that the
> > wireless
> > > > >can have access to the internal network but not the internet. So i
>was
> > > > >thinking i would give different subnet to the wireless stuff, and
>allow
> > > > that
> > > > >to route on the internal network.
> > > > >
> > > > >If anyone would like a more detailed drawing, i would be happy to
>draw
> > > > >something up and include other details like subnet mask and IP's
> > etc....
> > > > >
> > > > >Any suggestions are welcome
> > > > >
> > > > >-|- Hurgh -|-
> > > > >
> > > > >PS If the ascii art does not turn out correctly let me know and i
>will
> > do
> > > > a
> > > > >proper diagram later. (i am using OE6 and it looks fine in plain
>text)
> > > > >
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> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Richard Van Orsouw" <Richard.Van.Orsouw at optus.com.au>
> > > > >To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 2:42 PM
> > > > >Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hurgh
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You should be able to get a version for 2.4, I have it running on
> > 2.4.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Depending on our network setup, you might not need to any dynamic
> > > > routing.
> > > > >> Have you got a network diagram so we can check out what you might
> > > need?.
> > > > >If
> > > > >> you like, you can check out
> > > > >http://melbourne.wireless.org.au/wiki/?Kahless.
> > > > >> There you will find a network diagram of what I've got setup plus
> > > > >zebra/ospf
> > > > >> configs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > ----------
> > > > >> > From: -|- Hurgh -|-
> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2003 12:04 PM
> > > > >> > To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks for the info Richard, i went and had a look at zebra and
>it
> > > > seems
> > > > >> > it
> > > > >> > is made for the 2.0.* and the 2.2.* linux kernels, and i am using
> > > > redhat
> > > > >9
> > > > >> > which has a 2.4.* kernel, and i dont feel like downgrading.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > So my new question to the list is, what is the eaisest way to
>setup
> > > my
> > > > >> > redhat9 system as a wireless AP?? I have a network card and a
> > > wireless
> > > > >> > card
> > > > >> > both working, now all i need it some routing and some
> > > > firewalling/nating
> > > > >> > so
> > > > >> > if anyone can tell me the eaisest way to make the config changes
> > and
> > > > >what
> > > > >> > i
> > > > >> > should do that would be great.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -|- Hurgh -|-
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> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > __________________________
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> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> > From: "Richard Van Orsouw" <Richard.Van.Orsouw at optus.com.au>
> > > > >> > To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
> > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:54 AM
> > > > >> > Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > You might be getting firewalling mixed up with routing.
> > > > >> > > Softwall is used for filtering ( firewalling ).
> > > > >> > > But if you want routing, zebra is the way to go.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Richard.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > ----------
> > > > >> > > > From: -|- Hurgh -|-
> > > > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 May 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > >> > > > To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> > > > >> > > > Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Routing software for redhat
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Just a quick question,
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I have gotten my linux install to work with my network cards
> > and
> > > > >> > stuff,
> > > > >> > > > but
> > > > >> > > > i am not sure what is the best thing to use for routing. I
> > > > remember
> > > > >on
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > list a while back that people were suggesting some program
>but
> > i
> > > > >cant
> > > > >> > > > remember the name of it. I think it was softwall or something
> > > like
> > > > >> > that.
> > > > >> > I
> > > > >> > > > had a quick look at the mail archive but i could not find
> > > > anything..
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > If someone could remind me of the name and maybe even a URL
>of
> > > > where
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > software is that would be great. I dont need anything too
> > > advanced
> > > > >> > just
> > > > >> > > > simple to use. I am using Redhat as the OS.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > -|- Hurgh -|-
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