[MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names

[Ben Holko]

> Even if we're using a private naming scheme, it is still possible (afaik)
to use a public DNS server to do this, it just needs to be configured  to be
authorative for it.

yep

if people want to add search domain to their boxes, that's fine, but names
should be resolvable from the internet IMO - whether they resolve to RFC1918
space or not, cos we dont want to have to point our home networks at two
sets of NS' - one for the Internet and one for MW

B.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
[mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au]On Behalf Of Fenn Bailey
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 1:07 PM
To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
Cc: 'Matt'; sneeze at alphalink.com.au
Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names


Exactly - I think people are getting confused with the concept of a public
DNS server and a DNS server serving public IP addresses.

It is quite common for primary DNS servers to answer queries with private
(or otherwise no-accessable IP space). ISPs use this technique quite
regularly to tunnel traffic within their own network without using up
valuable real IP space.

It would be stupid if you had, say, 6 interfaces on a router, all with host
names associated (say: fe0.core-r1.blah.com, fe1.core-r1.blah.com, etc,
etc), but because 2 of those interfaces are private, have them served by a
different DNS server?? It would make no sense at all...

I would hazard that we could (maybe _should_) use the current
wireless.org.au box as the primary, authoritive DNS for the melbwireless
namespace, and we can all setup search domains if we don't want to type in
long URLs :)

Even if we're using a private naming scheme, it is still possible (afaik) to
use a public DNS server to do this, it just needs to be configured to be
authorative for it.

	Fenn.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> [mailto:owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Monday, 12 May 2003 12:48 PM
> To: sneeze at alphalink.com.au; melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Melbwirelses DNS and Domain Names
>
>
> Having global urls doesn't mean that the nodes would be internet
> accessible. It's more that the DNS would be internet
> accessible, that way
> we could have one dns for all of melbourne wireless and
> people wouldn't
> need to change their dns when surfing the internet or the
> melb-wireless
> network. We wouldn't have to worry about people running
> domain name servers
> or any of that stuff, it cuts down on complexity. You don't
> have to worry
> about having connectivity to a mw dns if the url-ip address
> information is
> available by conventional dns.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> At 12:26 PM 12/5/2003 +1000, Ryan Abbenhuys wrote:
> >...the problem when we hit this idea is that things just stop because
> >people get scared :-p
> >That happened when trying to sort out IP address ranges and
> in the end we
> >went with something not internet routable.
> >
> >Seems if we want to connect the wireless network to the
> internet one day we
> >need to change all of our IP's and routing setup, so we might as well
> >change all the DNS at the same time as we do that.
> >
> >At this stage personally I think if people want their box to
> be accessable
> >from the Internet they use their own link and have a proper
> DNS name setup
> >with their ISP to resolve to their box.
> >
> >comments?
> >
> >
> > >On Mon, 12 May 2003, Ryan Abbenhuys wrote:
> > > Isn't the idea to always look forward, and assume that MW
> > >will be part of that big bad internet one day...? :)
> > >
> > >Cheers.
> > >--
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