[MLB-WIRELESS] Fw: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) ( anyone else get this? )

paul van den bergen pvandenbergen at swin.edu.au
Tue Jan 14 12:32:59 EST 2003


On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:13 pm, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 11:13:13AM +1100, paul van den bergen wrote:
> > FWIW, I can't say I agree with this... solve the "problem" at the
> > simplest point... which in this case would be the mail list server.
> > not teh mail software.
>
> yes, simplest solutions are usually best - but only IF they are actually
> solutions.

and

>
> > I can;t think of a reason good enough to put up with the inconveiniece
> > to members to warrent it...
>
> your inability to think of a reason is not proof that there are no good
> reasons, rather it is is an indication of your lack of experience.
>
> that is fairly common.  generally the people who are in favour of
> Reply-To munging are those who have no experience running mailing lists
> and who therefore are unable to think of good reasons.
>

Ofcourse, I know that.  which is exactly why I was asking...  I figure that 
there has to be a reason.  but in the absence of an obvious one, I would 
prefer a solution that inconveniences the list members least.

>
> munging reply-to is NOT a solution to anything.  it breaks a lot more
> than it allegedly "fixes".
>
> - munging reply-to destroys any reply-to header that the original author
> may have set.

I don't understand why this is bad... it is an email list.  what reason would 
someone want to preserve the reply-to from a list?


>
> > lazy? lazy is good.
>
> only when it's smart laziness, not stupid laziness.

Mmmm donuts...

> it also
> has a tendedncy to cause mailing-list loops when subscribers are on a
> broken (almost always NT-based) mail server.

OK, that's a good reason.
Inconvenience to admin (and subscribers when the loop fills the in box) is 
more important than convenience to members (IMHO).


so, is there a better solution that allows reply-to list but diverts holiday 
replies, etc. (filter?) probably not.  I guess it depends how trainable the 
list members are...

-- 
Dr Paul van den Bergen
Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures
caia.swin.edu.au
pvandenbergen at swin.edu.au
IM:bulwynkl2002
would somebody get this big walking carpet out of my way?

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