[MLB-WIRELESS] Re: Here comes the pain...

[evilbunny]

Hello Donovan,

most WISPs aren't aiming at long distance, it's not a viable business
model, for starters AP's can only deal with a certain amount of users,
2ndly they couldn't over power someone totally anyway, they have the
same 4W limits as we do, well 200mW on channels 10+

in any case this will more then likely increase the number of
directional, and sector based antennas, as the only unviable option
will then become the omni directionals... as they will start picking
up too much interference...

I think you're going off on a complete tangent scare mongering
people...

worst comes to worst we can always start using light technology, which
has no ACA restrictions on the use of it...

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Saturday, September 21, 2002, 4:32:50 PM, you wrote:

DB> On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:01:29PM +1000, Ryan Abbenhuys wrote:
>> Personally, and I think there's probably others who feel the same way, I
>> wouldn't want a wireless ISP 5km's away using me to jump to another node
>> another 10km's away.  They're a business, making money, where I'm a
>> hobbiest, who's invested a lot of money in a lot of nerdy equipment.  And
>> unless they're prepared to pay me a few thousand dollars per anum I wouldn't
>> want them using me for profit.

DB> But what would you prefer, the buisness using your site as a hop, or the
DB> buisness blasting through you with a high power signal to make the 10kms?

DB> The buisness is probably going to prefer drowning you out to reach the 10kms
DB> anyway, because then your little hobby node doesn't introduce another point
DB> of failure for their link. It's going to take a _lot_ of convincing to get
DB> buisnesses to trust hobby networks as part of a co-operative mesh.

DB> Personally I think it would be great to have a co-operative mesh of
DB> commercial and non-commercal nodes, and makes _much_ more sense than having
DB> them all competing till the spectrum is blasted to uselessness.

DB> I don't think widespread wireless access will ever happen without serious
DB> co-operation and generousness from all parties involved. I don't think
DB> commercial competition will ever make it work. Competing companies will
DB> whack up hotspots all over the place, but end users subscribing to these
DB> services will find them useless because of no continuity... as they roam
DB> around they will move through multiple different provider's zones. Companies
DB> will have little incentive to co-operate with each other to provide a
DB> consistant service because co-operating with your competition is bad
DB> buisness.

DB> The only way widespread useful wireless will happen is if a single
DB> utility/company/telco gets exclusive rights to do it _all_ (remember when
DB> Telstra provided phones all over Australia?), or if there is a co-operative
DB> non-commercial effort by all involved (remember how educational institutions
DB> helped build the internet?).
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