[mesh] Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Here comes the pain...

[Ryan Abbenhuys]

Personally, and I think there's probably others who feel the same way, I
wouldn't want a wireless ISP 5km's away using me to jump to another node
another 10km's away.  They're a business, making money, where I'm a
hobbiest, who's invested a lot of money in a lot of nerdy equipment.  And
unless they're prepared to pay me a few thousand dollars per anum I wouldn't
want them using me for profit.

----- Original Message -----
From: <Matthew.C.Boyd at uts.edu.au>
To: <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [mesh] Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Here comes the pain...


> Someones probably already said this, hell maybe I've mentioned it...
> but...
> What are the restraints on us approaching people who set up wireless
> networks, be they ISPs or some other scumbags and proposing a standard ip
> allocation scheme (probably more easily workable with ipv6, but not
> impossible with the constraints we have on our ipv4 stuff), a standardised
> routing setup and a standard essid, the advantage being that a wireless
ISP
> or company wanting to provide access to its network over a larger area
> wouldn't have to worry excessively about the infrastructure cost. The
> advantage to us being that we get a larger range of services on the
> wireless network and more active nodes.
>
> If you wanted to use a wireless ISP then you'd just need to set up an
ipsec
> tunnel to the nearest gateway out to the net. If you wanted to access the
> computer at work, ipsec tunnels once again, or whatever else becomes
available.
>
> Basically its the mesh idea, using the increased wireless traffic / node
> density to increase bandwidth rather that complaining about the noise. We
> could use the subscription thing with Melbwireless that was discussed a
> while ago to make it legal for people to use it for net access.
>
> I can see a number of problems with this idea, number 1 being that you'd
> have to convince people that we had the capabilities to support the
> network, the next that it's in their interest, is it legal, people using
> the network would want to have some say in how it was run. Is there
> anything that stops us from letting companies join melbwireless, some sort
> of corporate membership, or could we start up something along the lines of
> a standards body to promote our scheme? Having said this, is it worthwhile
> to work through these (and all the other) problems.
>
> Matt



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