[MLB-WIRELESS] Legal Internet access to members?

[Robert Farrar]

Darren,

But the catch is that you need a carrier to go into bat for you to grant this nominated carrier declaration to you on their behalf.

You need to come up with the money for the NCD, it is only a once off payment though.

Regards,

Robert Farrar
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: darrend at ndpgroup.com.au 
  To: Robert Farrar 
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Legal Internet access to members?



  kewl... thanks robert, thats what I was looking for.... I knew it was in there somewhere!  what a bargain... lol 
  :) 
  See ya, 

  Darren Dreis
  IT Manager
  NDP Consulting
  Tel 03 9548 9444  Fax 03 9548 9040



       "Robert Farrar" <robert at secnet.com.au> 
        01/11/2002 09:54 PM 

               
                To:        <darrend at ndpgroup.com.au> 
                cc:        <melbwireless at wireless.org.au> 
                Subject:        Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Legal Internet access to members? 


  Hello Darren 
    
  The fee for a nominated Carrier Declaration is $3411.10, you will find a guide to both Carrier & nominated carrier licencing at :- http://www.aca.gov.au/licence/carrier_index.htm 
    
  Regards, 
    
  Robert Farrar 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: darrend at ndpgroup.com.au 
  To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au 
  Cc: craig.mead at pagesmith.com.au 
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 5:35 PM 
  Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Legal Internet access to members? 


  Craig... you're right. This would constitute commercial use. 

  Although you'll note that a nominated declaration applies to a network unit. Under these guidlines, the ACA would determine each AP to be a network unit! ie the provider would have to make a declaration for each AP they use to transmit their data. 
  <dont quote me on this>From memory the charge for making such a declaration is atleast $3k, making it cheaper and easier for them to roll out their own infrastructure.</dont quote me on this> (it's somewhere on the aca site... cant remember) Either that or use infrastructure already in place by those carrier wholesale sharks! 

  As far as use by 'members' without additional charge, contract or service level agreements, the members would be considered 'inner circle' to the network units, thus not requiring carrier status. Access to the public will be a whole different matter. 

  Shame no one is giving bandwidth away :( 


  Darren Dreis
  Vice President 
  Melbourne Wireless Inc.
  vicepresident at wireless.org.au 
  http://www.wireless.org.au 



       "Craig Mead" <craig.mead at pagesmith.com.au> 
        Sent by: owner-melbwireless at wireless.org.au 
        01/11/2002 03:20 PM 
               
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               Subject:        [MLB-WIRELESS] Legal Internet access to members? 



  | Hello Steven,
  |
  | Pity about the AUPs and 3 gig download limits with excess charges
  | though huh?


  We've had quite a few ISP's talk to us about bandwith, however, it was not
  donating it, it was selling it over our network to end users, making it no
  longer non-commercial....or does it?

  If we give them permission to transmit over our links and make a x%
  "donation" of the monthly fee per user they have on the network are we
  considered commercial? Even so it is transmitting from one network onto
  another going outside the "closed loop" therefore we would at least require
  at minumum a carriers declaration.

  I think its definitely one to talk to the lawyers about.




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