[MLB-WIRELESS] Meeting Structure? #%(^&!!

Luke fuelz at optushome.com.au
Sun Mar 17 20:29:21 EST 2002


The parking ticket has alot to do with the meeting, as there was not enough
parking around,
and the parking that was around was not clearly labeled.

Greg is not the only one who got a ticket ( I was also lucky enough to get
one )


Luke

----- Original Message -----
From: "dwayne" <dwayne at pobox.com>
To: "melbourne wireless" <melbwireless at wireless.org.au>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Meeting Structure? #%(^&!!


> Greg wrote:
>
> > Besides the $60 Parking ticket from the last meeting in Hawthorn, and
the
> > free BBQ sausages from the Geelong guys (thanks, sort of compensated;-)
I am
> > not sure that the meetings are all they could be.
>
> Err, not to get too narky, but your parking ticket is unrelated to the
> meeting, really.
>
> >  should we have a basic meeting structure in place where we login (on
paper
> > even!) at the door with our (node&)Name and pay the fee to cover the
hall
> > first.
> >
> > Then should we have a set time we all sit down and someone does a bit of
a
> > talk on the general wireless.org.au group objectives and such for five
min.
>
> good idea.
>
> > This time could introduce some of the people that have kicked this whole
> > thing off from the start and might include Nick, Steve, Tyson, Ryan, and
> > whoever else is responsible for this rabble. Sorry but I was not in from
the
> > start and am not sure who was but you know who you are;-)
> > Consider to vote a COMMITEE!!??
>
> <panic mode>
>
> okaaaay. maybe. perhaps.
>
>
> > Maybe then some questions and tech talk and then playtime.
>
> Good.
>
> > This would get newcommers a bit more comfortable with the whole
experience.
>
> Yes.
>
> > I also think it is time to setup some sort of joining based on the
NodeName
> > where we pay an annual nominal fee ($10 / 20??) to be part of the
> > "MelbWireless" 'group' 'club' 'organisation' or whatever?
>
>
> AAAARRGGHHH!!!!!! LEGAL ISSUES!!!!!!!
>
> I propose we keep it as ad-hoc as possible for as long as possible. We
might
> be so large that we need a formally incorporated structure, but then, it
might
> not, and I for one would rather keep it as unorganised as possible for the
> time being.
>
> > WwWho is paying for the website and hosting etc?? Not to mention all the
> > background admin and programing done by someone obviously for benefit of
us
> > all.
>
> I'm cool with that. I'm assuming they are cool for that. I certainly don't
> want to start paying people for things they do here, although covering
costs
> is okay.  As in expenses, not time.  Money tends to distort things in
really
> horrible ways, I've found.
>
>
> > Should not all the "members" contribute through the fee to the "group"
> > resources?
>
> Not at all.
> Shouldn't all "members" contribute what they can, to make the project grow
as
> well as possible, without expecting some reward (other than brownie points
and
> street cred)?
>
> > Hell, I'm the one that usually complains about the pain of paperwork and
> > procedure BUT shouldn't we do something soon before it all starts to
become
> > unmanageable?
>
> Is it?
>
> > I get the feeling that the guys that started it all dont want to push
these
> > issues because they may be looked upon as ????
>
> As one of the guys who started this, I'm very opposed to unneeded
> organisation, fee collecting and money-lobbing.
>
> > But I'm just one of the rabble that throws the odd handgrenade into the
fray
> > so I dont mind what you think.
> >
> > WELL WHAT do YOU think??
>
>
> </panic>
>
> Interesting idea, not sure we need all of it, greed breeds mean deeds, to
> quote a footpath, and where there's money greed wanders in.
>
> Hell, talk to anyone who has been involved in Down To Earth, for one.
>
> Remember, this *could* get very large, at which point serious money is
> sloshing around, if fees are being collected.
>
> Dwayne
>
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