NOOO... Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Resignation

[Drew]

Tyson, I think you've been doing a great job, and you're a great asset 
to the group, if everyone was as pro-active as you, we'd really have 
something here, so please, don't leave... and to the rest of the group 
who would rather be destructive than constructive, quit it. Stop the 
bickering, take your flames off list, and ask what you can do to help. 
The "committee" has always been the people stepping up and volunteering, 
not some secret society. But I agree, it should not be called a 
committe, as it is not. I think it should be called the Volunteer Squad 
from now on. Anyone who wants to step up and do something for the group 
whether it be finding a venue, or approaching a company, volunteer. 
There needs to be some coordination to get things done, that's all this 
is for.

Thanks for listening,
Drew

Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au wrote:

>I apologize to everyone in the group.
>
>I have been trying VERY HARD to please lots of people.
>I, like others, am getting stressed.
>Tempers have been running very high.
>In the previous week, the list has seen more posts regarding organisational
>issues than technical ones.
>We all want roughly the same things, we disagree on how we should achieve
>this.
>Nobody can please everyone all of the time.
>
>Some things do not just happen, there is a "group" of us working together to
>get things happening, we have loosely referred to ourselves as a
>"committee".
>This "group" typically communicates off list.
>This "group" is formed of people that have been constructive and
>communicative at the meetings, that is people who have approached myself and
>others and been pro-active in getting things done.
>The pro-active part is especially relevant.  Activities carried out include:
>* Running the current server - which includes web pages, mailing lists, node
>maps, etc.
>* Building the new server, to cope with the exponential growth experienced
>by the group.
>* Sourcing bandwidth and hardware to run the servers.
>* Finding a suitable venue for our monthly meeting.
>* Communicating with external entities, such as the press, government and
>others.
>* Running the monthly meetings.
>* Documenting what we do, like the RFC.
>
>I have raised the issue of voting for a committee numerous times on this
>list.
>Every time I raise the issue, I get flamed.
>The issue won't go away until we have a committee.
>The group can't run itself, someone needs to organise things.  Melb-Wireless
>does not have a committee, yet the meetings still go ahead.
>
>I apologise for being human.  I have my flaws like everyone else.  I have
>been doing my best at helping Melb-Wireless rise to a level that we can all
>hopefully be proud of.  I am not alone in my efforts.
>
>If you have ANY questions regarding how things have been happening, who has
>been doing what, what is planned for the future, then all you need to do is
>ASK.  We WILL reply truthfully and honestly.  Feel free to ask such
>questions openly on the list, feel free to request that they are answered
>via the list.  We can make no guarantees that we can answer every question,
>as we are sure that there are plenty to ask, but we will try our best.
>
>If people feel that my services are not required, then I shall leave.  As
>simple as that.  
>
>As a matter of fact, I'm tired of being flamed.
>
>I hereby step down.  I resign myself from doing anything that can be
>considered as helping the group.
>
>If you want me back, ask nicely.  Until then, I'll be another one of those
>fools asking "what can wireless do for me", rather than "what can I do for
>the community with wireless".
>
>
>Regards,
>Tyson.
>
>__________________________________
>
>Tyson Clugg
>email: Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au
>phone: +61 3 9887 0117 (Home)
>__________________________________
>
>
>PS: Extra monies collected at the last meeting (total monies collected was
>$99.50, hall cost was $50.00, extra monies are therefore $49.50) shall be
>brought along to the next meeting, or forwarded to whoever decides to take
>up organising the next meeting.  We probably won't fit into the scout hall
>for much longer, and the insurance on other venues is expensive.  You will
>need the cash.  I wish you good luck finding a venue, and the best of luck
>organising the meetings.  Perhaps I might even turn up at one.
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Clae [mailto:clae13 at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:39 PM
>To: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
>Subject: [MLB-WIRELESS] Fwd: Committee Meeting
>
>
>I strongly object to this kind of thing being organised by private 
>emails, without going through the public list.  I am not about to 
>become part anyone's "committee by appointment".
>
>I therefore propose that the melbwireless community move at the next 
>meeting to establish genuine democratic process, for example, a 
>constitution, formal incorporation, offices and decision-making 
>procedures.
>
>I also propose that this "committee" has absolutely no recognition 
>from the floor, until such time as a democratic process has ensued.
>
>
>This kind of feral back-room branch stacking really gets my giddy goat.
>
>Clae.
>
>
>>X-From_: tyson.clugg at csiro.au  Thu Mar 14 21:20:39 2002
>>X-Track: 1: 40
>>X-Yahoo-Forwarded: from clae13 at yahoo.com to clae at tpg.com.au
>>From: Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au
>>To:
>>Subject: Committee Meeting
>>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:20:30 +1100
>>
>>Dear "Committee",
>>
>>We are having an impromptu meeting, to discuss various developments of this
>>week.
>>
>>
>>***Time***
>>5pm Saturday March 16th 2002.  This time is not concrete - if you can't
>>
>make
>
>>it, TELL me.  We NEED your input.
>>
>>***Location***
>>O'Connell Reserve.
>>
>>***Duration***
>>Between 2 and 4 hours.
>>
>>***Bring***
>>Pen and paper.
>>Your "everyday" laptop if you have one.
>>Ideas for the next meeting (12th April 2002).
>>Thoughts on what you would say to Senator Richard Alston if you were to
>>
>meet
>
>>him and discuss current ACA regulations regarding broadcasting internet
>>packets on community wireless networks.
>>
>>***Leave***
>>Show and tell stuff, unless it is of importance to the "committee".
>>Friends who would be better off attending the next general meeting.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Tyson.
>>
>>PS: I refer to this group of people as the "committee", as I couldn't think
>>of any other description for us at the moment.
>>____________________________________________
>>
>>Tyson Clugg
>>IT Services
>>CSIRO - Molecular Science, Clayton
>>phone (work): 03 9545 8117
>>phone (home): 03 9887 0117
>>email: tyson.clugg at csiro.au
>>____________________________________________
>>
>
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