[MLB-WIRELESS] Meeting Structure? #%(^&!!

[Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au]

Tee-hee-hee.... I got the response I was after.   So THAT's how this group
started!  ;)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dwayne [mailto:dwayne at pobox.com]
> Sent: Friday, 15 March 2002 5:39 PM
> To: melbourne wireless
> Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Meeting Structure? #%(^&!!
> 
> 
> Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au wrote:
> > 
> > > As one of the guys who started this, I'm very opposed to unneeded
> > > organisation, fee collecting and money-lobbing.
> > 
> > Ummm....
> > 
> > Dwayne, didn't you delurk on October 21st last year?  
> 
> Hardly.
> 
> Someone, I forget who, wrote to the samba-wireless list ages 
> and ages ago
> asking if there was anyone interested in this stuff in 
> melbourne, which I'd
> been doing every few months for, um, a couple of years?
> 
> So, I popped my head up and said "hey! I am!" and the end 
> result of the email
> conversation was this list.
> 
> So, there's actually two people who could be considered "the 
> founder", and I'm
> one of them.
> 
> But I hate that sort of wanky totem pole-ism so have shut up 
> about it, with
> the occasional "hang on, who voted *you* founder?" comment 
> every now and then
> when I thought people were trying to throw their weight around.
> 
> 
> > I delurked on
> > September 3rd last year, after subscribing on August 
> 14th... and I'd hardly
> > consider myself as one of the guys that started this - just 
> someone who
> > helps a lot.  That kinda debunks your statement.
> 
> Hardly. I was offline for a year while still participating in 
> this list. It
> just means I have been here longer than you and you arrived 
> while I was
> offline.
> 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but you delurked with the 
> following message:
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Sent:           Sun 21/10/2001 6:34 PM
> > To:             melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> > From:           dwayne [ddraig at pobox.com]
> > Subject:        Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] A note from the founder.
> > 
> > not wanting to carp, or start a shitfight, or something, 
> but when did
> > you get voted The Founder?
> > 
> > Like, whatever, but writing posts like this seem to suggest 
> a certain
> > weight (which goes with The Title) being thrown around, at 
> which point
> > people like me delurk and ask questions.
> > 
> > Well, actually, it's more like I've made mailing 
> transparent instead of
> > fiddly so I started reading listmail again, and this was 
> message number
> > 5 or so.  :-)
> > 
> > I have a hell of a lot to say on this "established order" topic, I
> > expect, but I've just wandered in at this point in the discussion so
> > I'll shut up.
> 
> 
> 
> Well, as you can see by
> 
> > fiddly so I started reading listmail again
> 
> obviously that was NOT my first post.
> 
> 
> I've been trying to organise exactly this sort of thing in 
> melbourne since
> 1994. Or earlier. I certainly started making a noise when I 
> read the Apple NII
> "SuperNet" proposal in 1994. I've had lots of ultra-annoying 
> "when you build
> it, I'll get involved" comments, but as I am neither a radio 
> nor electronic
> guy, *I* was no going to build a bloody thing, I wanted to 
> organise some
> people who knew and then learn how from them.  Needless to 
> say I did not know
> people who were the right combination of competent and interested.
> 
> I also tend to dominate most of the projects I'm involved in, 
> so I have
> deliberately sat back and been a  tourist with list, because 
> it's actually
> really cool to not be the driving force behind something for 
> a change.  I'm
> unemployed so haven't the money *yet* to build a node, but am 
> certainly
> working on it.
> 
> wrt to this whole founder whatsit, I'm sure someone could say 
> they founded
> *this mailing list* but *this project* pre-dates the mailing 
> list, as pretty
> much all such projects do.
> 
> And yes I do have the entire email trail going back to that 
> original message
> to samba-wireless
> 
> so, um, nyah or something.  :-)
> 
> Dwayne
> 
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