[MLB-WIRELESS] Meeting Structure? #%(^&!!

[dwayne]

Tyson.Clugg at csiro.au wrote:
> 
> > As one of the guys who started this, I'm very opposed to unneeded
> > organisation, fee collecting and money-lobbing.
> 
> Ummm....
> 
> Dwayne, didn't you delurk on October 21st last year?  

Hardly.

Someone, I forget who, wrote to the samba-wireless list ages and ages ago
asking if there was anyone interested in this stuff in melbourne, which I'd
been doing every few months for, um, a couple of years?

So, I popped my head up and said "hey! I am!" and the end result of the email
conversation was this list.

So, there's actually two people who could be considered "the founder", and I'm
one of them.

But I hate that sort of wanky totem pole-ism so have shut up about it, with
the occasional "hang on, who voted *you* founder?" comment every now and then
when I thought people were trying to throw their weight around.


> I delurked on
> September 3rd last year, after subscribing on August 14th... and I'd hardly
> consider myself as one of the guys that started this - just someone who
> helps a lot.  That kinda debunks your statement.

Hardly. I was offline for a year while still participating in this list. It
just means I have been here longer than you and you arrived while I was
offline.

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but you delurked with the following message:
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Sent:           Sun 21/10/2001 6:34 PM
> To:             melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> From:           dwayne [ddraig at pobox.com]
> Subject:        Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] A note from the founder.
> 
> not wanting to carp, or start a shitfight, or something, but when did
> you get voted The Founder?
> 
> Like, whatever, but writing posts like this seem to suggest a certain
> weight (which goes with The Title) being thrown around, at which point
> people like me delurk and ask questions.
> 
> Well, actually, it's more like I've made mailing transparent instead of
> fiddly so I started reading listmail again, and this was message number
> 5 or so.  :-)
> 
> I have a hell of a lot to say on this "established order" topic, I
> expect, but I've just wandered in at this point in the discussion so
> I'll shut up.



Well, as you can see by

> fiddly so I started reading listmail again

obviously that was NOT my first post.


I've been trying to organise exactly this sort of thing in melbourne since
1994. Or earlier. I certainly started making a noise when I read the Apple NII
"SuperNet" proposal in 1994. I've had lots of ultra-annoying "when you build
it, I'll get involved" comments, but as I am neither a radio nor electronic
guy, *I* was no going to build a bloody thing, I wanted to organise some
people who knew and then learn how from them.  Needless to say I did not know
people who were the right combination of competent and interested.

I also tend to dominate most of the projects I'm involved in, so I have
deliberately sat back and been a  tourist with list, because it's actually
really cool to not be the driving force behind something for a change.  I'm
unemployed so haven't the money *yet* to build a node, but am certainly
working on it.

wrt to this whole founder whatsit, I'm sure someone could say they founded
*this mailing list* but *this project* pre-dates the mailing list, as pretty
much all such projects do.

And yes I do have the entire email trail going back to that original message
to samba-wireless

so, um, nyah or something.  :-)

Dwayne

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