[MLB-WIRELESS] 802.11b

[Marian Szczepkowski]

Please

This is the relevant part of the legislation, read the bloody 
thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is simple if you fit within the guidelines.
Don't want to buy a license then use part b), get over it.

ISP's can now supply in bulk connections to community partnerships, see 
the oportunities. 
Any idiot can find a reason why you can't do something.

TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997
- SECT 23
Immediate circle

(1)For the purposes of this Act, a person's immediate circle consists of 
the person, together with the following persons: 

         (a)if the person is an individual-an employee of the individual; 
         (b)if the person is a partnership-an employee of the 
partnership; 
         (c)if the person is a body corporate: 

              (i)an officer of the body corporate; 
              (ii)if another body corporate is related to the 
first-mentioned body corporate (within the meaning of the Corporations 
Act
                  2001)-that other body corporate and an officer of that 
other body corporate; 


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 2/28/02, 5:19:28 PM, Dennis <dennis at ozisp.com.au> wrote regarding RE: 
[MLB-WIRELESS] 802.11b:


> And as an ISP, shouldn't be pumping data through it anyway.

> I thought all we were trying to do was connect a few computers together
> across town so we could share some stuff, play some games and have a
> good time.

> Why would we want to get involved with an ISP anyway, most if not all of
> us have our own internet connections elsewhere anyway, and if an ISP
> wanted to jump on the wireless network and allow access to it for all
> their customers then I would hope not only they pay for a carriers
> license but they also pay some compensation to the wireless network as a
> whole.

> Allowing access to the wireless network from within the borders of an
> ISP for any reason should not be allowed, its unfair to us people who
> have layed the groundwork and spent our own money to get this of the
> ground, only to have an ISP selling our network to its customers.
> If the ISP wanted involvement then the best option would be to set up an
> access point separate from its business side of things, and then resell
> hardware to its customers, effectively becoming part of the network
> separately from the ISP industry.


> It's not clearly stated that the nodes are actually illegal, considering
> that to be a node you are more or less going to be the owner of the
> equipment therefore you are always using your own network link and
> considering that its not illegal to use the link if you are the owner,
> and you are not providing a service to the public, then its not illegal
> to use the network at all.

> EG: I have a laptop and a wireless card and I connect to joes over in
> the next suburb, then at that point I own half the network and joe owns
> the other half, there is zero public involvement and no laws have been
> broken.


> For what its worth though I don't even understand why laws bother to be
> written, because 95% of people cant understand them, and the 5% that do
> understand them will stand up in court and deny that's what it means
> anyway.

> I vote that we build this network, and have some fun.



> Grokk.


> > Hi fellows,
> >
> > There has been much current debate generated on the OZ-ISP list due to
> the
> > 7:30 report story.
> >
> > Yes, it is illegal to deploy 802.11 gear and as an ISP, pump data
> through
> > it
> > to customers, *without a carriers license*.
> >
> > Also, your nodes are illegal. Once you actually start carrying data
> > between
> > points without a carriers license, you are breaking the communications
> act
> > of
> > 1997.
> >



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