[MLB-WIRELESS] New submissions to the wireless broadband inquiry

[Greg]

Why do you think IDS have made this submission?

Besides my business, how many others are looking at these bulk buys and not
getting any wireless gear from IDS any longer?

Because we cant run a business making no margins (FAT PRICES?!?) just like
they can't if many sales are not happening because people get wireless  gear
for LESS than even distributor cost. ($55 for a 802.11b PCard? Who could do
that except mfr?)

( I dont sell much of wireless so its not really effecting my business, but
I would bet its effecting IDS!)

Irespective of motive, I think most thinking policy makers will see through
their outlandish claims as to antennas and EIRP, licencing (they dont even
Licence CBers any more and there are lots of them putting out 30w when the
limit is 5w on UHF 476Mhz  and a 100w when the limit is 12w on 27Mhz) etc.
Their conradictory references to the public and to the "non conforming or
law breaking" public eg.:
"Also 2.4 GHz products are typically used by free community
networks or gaming groups who again may not care or know if they exceed the
4-watt limit." and then "We recommend that steps be taken to protect the
resource so it is available
for use by everyone." is unlikely to convince anyone.

Its always what side of the fence you are on that makes the way you think
and act.

They are on the "other side" to most here, so lets drop this thred.


From: "Andy Freeman" <wireless at kawasaki.kz>
> So what do we do now?  The way I see it we have a couple of options...
>
> b.\ We charge a $100 membership fee to all, put it in a big pot and
> become the second Orinoco distributor in the Australasia region.  We
> undercut the fat prices that IDS are asking and supply the world with
> cheap wireless gear.
>
>
> Don't get angry... get even!
>
Integrity Data Systems says: "The 2.4 GHz IEEE 802.11 b products have been
in use for some time now for entry level point-to-point and
point-to-multipoint broadband deployment. The proliferation of brands now
entering Australia and the use of wireless LAN cards in
personal computers (PCs) and Linux boxes for community gaming is polluting
the 2.4GHz band as a resource."

"Of even more concern is the number of importers and installers of 2.4 GHz
product that have nil radio experience or knowledge. These companies are
combining the 2.4 GHz products with directional, omni antennas and
amplifiers that in many cases breach the ACA's class license. Many of these
companies are not even aware of the conditions around the use of products in
the 2.4 GHz band. Also 2.4 GHz products are typically used by free community
networks or gaming groups who again may not care or know if they exceed the
4-watt limit."

"We recommend that steps be taken to protect the resource so it is available
for use by everyone. Any vendors or importers selling the product in
Australia should undertake an accreditation process, which involves
educating their channel on the class license. All installed links should be
registered with the ACA by the installer, end user or both and must supply,
as a minimum, a link budget which clearly shows the product, RF cable, and
antennas used, as well as the EIRP level for the link. The ACA could then
issue a certificate of compliance. We also believe that retrospective steps
be taken to clean up the band by ensuring current links comply with the
class license conditions. After an amnesty or grace period, sites without a
certificate of compliance could be fined. This should not only remove the
"cowboy" element of some suppliers and resellers, but allow more second tier
carriers to look at using the technology, which is still the most economical
way to distribute Internet services.
This would still allow the technology to be used for gaming purposes, but
minimise the risk of interference with a second tier carrier who is
deploying a suburb-wide wireless broadband service.
Using the analogy of the spectrum resource as a river, there would be an
uproar over the lax way we allow some to pollute it. We must protect it from
the reckless or ignorant behaviour of a few so broadband is cost-effectively
available for all.
In regard to free community wireless networks, they again should not only
register their links, but be excluded from using amplifiers. This should not
be an issue, as community links ares typically point to point and cover
short distances."




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