[MLB-WIRELESS] *nix system for begginers

[Random]

Yes I must agree completely, use what you like best. Personally I have
some wacky setup's, openbsd firewall, redhat web server(s), ms-exchange
email. Heh ;) 
[/grabs fire extinguisher]

I personally recommend Openbsd though, mainly due to its simplicity, but
im not going to join any os wars. Those 'unix newbies' out there should
look around though, you may be surprised what suits you best.

"Simplicity", hmm such a relative term.. At least coming from someone
who gave up C++ in favour of the 'far simpler' x86 assembly language
many years ago.. [grin]

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Martin Laukkanen (random at sectoid.org)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KevinL [mailto:darius at obsidian.com.au] 
> Sent: Monday, 8 July 2002 2:09 PM
> To: evilbunny
> Cc: melbwireless at wireless.org.au
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [MLB-WIRELESS] *nix system for begginers
> 
> 
> Urk.
> 
> chroot() on a standard system is not as secure as all that - 
> get root inside a chroot environment by whatever means, and 
> you can likely leverage that to root across the system.  It's 
> a hinderance, but not a mammoth one.
> 
> Check http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc for a 
> virtual server project that provides at kernel-level the same 
> sort of capabilities that FreeBSD's jails provide - that's a 
> much saner solution (and allows for interesting games like 
> running different distro's on the same server).
> 
> See previous message about not feeding the trolls, though - 
> horses for courses, and all that.  People love the system 
> they know the best, and 99% of the time the choice is better 
> made on what you know, or what you're comfortable with, than 
> on any particular difference between linux and freebsd, 
> debian and redhat &etc.  The differences are too minor, 
> imnsho - they all have strengths and weaknesses.
> 
> KJL
> 
> On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 14:02, evilbunny wrote:
> > Hello Brendan,
> > 
> > I guess that's what hurd is supposed to fix... I run it on 
> productions 
> > systems, and don't have problems, chroot is for those truly 
> worried, 
> > after all if you chroot all processes to the /home dir for example, 
> > and the only way to get root is with a reboot into single 
> user mode? 
> > for those truly worried about security, unplug the computer 
> from the 
> > wall, after all if they can't get access to it, they can't 
> crack it...
> > 
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  evilbunny                            
> mailto:evilbunny at sydneywireless.com
> > 
> > 
> http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications freedom 
> > to make it do what you never thought possible...
> > 
> > Monday, July 8, 2002, 1:57:52 PM, you wrote:
> > 
> > BH> But it's biggest flaw still exits.
> > BH> It is Linux based.
> > 
> > BH> -ProFX
> > 
> > BH> From: "evilbunny" <evilbunny at sydneywireless.com>
> > 
> > >> Erm debian doesn't move config files, and comparing it 
> to RH, mmm 
> > >> so much for your argument there and then, it's quite simple to 
> > >> secure any system, if it's not needed disable it... and then 
> > >> firewall the shit out of it...
> 
> 
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