[MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed offer.

Tue Jan 15 12:16:09 EST 2002

Could it be possible that the person meant to say
"Share Ware" as distinct from Warez.

A tucows mirror on the wireless would be a useful adjunct to the network.

But I fear we are going over the same ol same old here.

The only way to sort this sort of stuff out is to have clear guidelines.
I.e. A CONSTITUTION
that states what we are about and what sort of services that we will and
will not condone.

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: bede [mailto:bede at gisbornehotel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:38 AM
To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed offer.

i cant say how stupied it is to mention warez,
and discuss how you will trade and leech pirated goods it will all come
to no good!

this network is not for the benifit of pirates and hard core warezers
and i think we should distance oursevels from such comments as it
will get us shut down and banned so quick and im sure legeslation will
be
passed to ban such "private communications"

Bede

fredrick farnsworth wrote:
>
> I doubt you will ever get 200 11mbs connections, luck
> if there will only be a handfull.
> Most people will get sub 1 mbit connections. Probable
> about 90%.
> You cannot compare melbourne to what happens in som
> densely populated cities else where, where there would
> be 50+ nodes in 500-1000 meters range.  Melbourne is a
> very spread out city with hills and troughs.
>
> Like i said before you would be surprized what
> backbone small isp's actually have,  512K is heaps.
>
> I would like to for a Leech warez group, get a few
> people together, the cost will become small..
> The carrier lic you can get around, we are not
> reselling the service, all we are doing as getting a
> group of people together to share cost, not becoming a
> business entity to carry data for "other access" the
> group of people are getting the service for their own
> use.. And i believe this is the Key.
>
> Either that or we get 10 or so people who have
> cable/adsl connections, create a common repository of
> Files collected and proxy that of to the wireless
> group for share warez.
>
> --- adamneat <adam.neat at agn-consulting.com> wrote:
> > <shakes head>
> >
> > 200 perm 11Mbs connections all trying to access the
> > 'Net via a 512K ? An ISP
> > with 200 56K dialups and a 512K line should be
> > dragged over the coals for
> > dodgy/poor service; 200 3-6Mbs Wireless connections
> > is just 10 times worse.
> >
> > Read through the other mail threads today on this
> > whole issue. Unless you're
> > wanting to pay for the carrier license and Melbourne
> > Wireless leech of that,
> > you're idea won't fly.
> >
> > Someone mentioned earlier ( I think it was Tony)
> > that this is an Intranet,
> > NOT an Internet service. You cannot traverse
> > non-licensed networks with
> > Internet / 3rd party data.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: fredrick farnsworth
> > [mailto:myfreewarez2000 at yahoo.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 2:18 PM
> > >To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
> > >Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] Internet Feed offer.
> > >
> > >
> > >My testing with 802.11b stuff show me severe speed
> > >degredation with distance.
> > >Perfect Line Of site is ok for 1-2 km at 3-6 m/bit
> > >Anything more you start getting sub 1 mbit speeds.
> > >Just not worth the trouble.
> > >at least with 11a you start with a base rate 5 time
> > >faster.  Just waiting to get my hands on a access
> > >point and cards to play with.
> > >
> > >"nobody mention internet"?  why, what else is this
> > >syetm for?  You have to be kidding with that
> > >statement, We can get internet leggally, we just
> > have
> > >to pay for it. And we can get it at a wholesale
> > price,
> > >off set cost maybe with some advertising and small
> > >proxy fees.  Most small ISP don't even have 512K!
> > >It will only cost about $40K per year, may be just
> > >under, That is very cheap.  Say spread it amongst
> > 200
> > >users, thats only $200 per year each! Unlimited
> > Hours
> > >24/7, not bye counting, what a deal!!!
> > >
> > >--- "ABBENHUYS, Ryan" <rabbenhuys at mfbb.vic.gov.au>
> > >wrote:
> > >> nobody even bother mentioning the word "Internet"
> > >>
> > >> more trouble than it's worth at this point and
> > will
> > >> most likely attract
> > >> undesirables.
> > >>
> > >> So 802.11b will be obselete soon and creating any
> > >> network with 802.11b is a
> > >> joke?
> > >> You sure bout that?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: fredrick farnsworth
> > >> [mailto:myfreewarez2000 at yahoo.com]
> > >> Sent: Monday, 14 January 2002 13:09
> > >>
> > >> I can set up a Node/Proxy with Internet Feed,
> > about
> > >> 512K  No Byte Charges,  Just a Fixed Bandwisth
> > Cost.
> > >> But I will setup only a 802.11a spec, as 802.11b
> > >> will
> > >> be obsolete soon, and speed quickly degrades with
> > >> distance making a WAN type network with  802.11b
> > a
> > >> joke.
> > >> Is anyone Interested in this?
> > >> I can get a good pricing on this.
> > >>
> > >> Fredrick.
> > >>
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