[MLB-WIRELESS] grumpy people - get a move on

[simmans at datafast.net.au]

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> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Alex F wrote:
> 
>> There are about 18 nodes "operational", let's say 20 to count those
>> who haven't updated their status.
> 
> Two of those are mine and I'm not linked to anyone.  I have a number of
> people close by, but the areas in question are rather hilly and LOS
> non-existent.
> 
> Except:
> 
> Swinburne Lilydale - I can see you.  I can hear you ("swinade") but I
> haven't been able to make contact with any people as yet.  Perhaps I
> should do the Vernor Vinge "Fire Upon The Deep" style
> first-contact-via-network thing...
> 
> I have a potential site in Sunshine, which is noticeably flatter.  If
> there's anyone in the area who's interested, please let me know!
> 
>> cycle just with this.  Some people probably wouldn't even fork out $50
>> for an antenna or go to the effort of setting up, even if you gave
>> them a wireless network card for FREE, in the chance that there won't
>> be anyone to
> 
> Yup.  In my case, I connect to me (notebook to base station) which is
> plenty useful.  This might be good motiviation for some people to
> deploy wireless.
> 
> I know people with very little interest per se who could host nodes in
> strategic places (tops of hills) who would be willing to provide power
> but little else.  These ones we simply need to fund for the good of the
> network and I will do them as and when I can.
> 
>> Now let's say that every node becomes "operational", there are still
>> plenty of nodes on the fringes who would out of range to someone. 
>> What's the motivation for these people to get set up?
> 
> Local wireless access for one, as I mentioned.  The promise of future
> connection (minimal motivation, I realise).
> 
> Don't forget, we can always run wired links to strategic places.
> 
>> We have to find a way of achieving critical mass and moving forward.
> 
> Absolutely.  More press coverage would help.  Local papers are probably
> a good place to try and place articles (they print most anything anyway
> and are generally interested in community-related stuff).
> 
> Nick Sibbing and I also had some positive vibes out of Yarra Ranges
> Shire when we met with Elizabeth Jenkins there (unfortunately now
> departed).  A couple of angles:
> 
> - Youth+gaming.  Keep them off the streets by putting wireless gear in
> youth centres so people can game.  Community training aspect of this:
> run workshops where people learn how to make Pringles antennae as well
> as all about computer networking technology (a very saleable skill).
> 
> - Community "portals".  Wirelessly-available local community BBSes,
> effectively.
> 
> - Linking council "service centres".  Yarra Ranges has a bunch of
> places from Lilydale out to Warburton.  Video-conferencing to provide
> services to these communities definitely generated council interest.
> 
> 
> Bottom line - get out there and do something.  At the very least, stick
> a wireless card in your PC and create an operational node.  :)
> 
> 
> Adrian Close			email:	adrian at close.wattle.id.au
> 1 Old Gippsland Rd.		web:
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> Lilydale, VIC, 3140, Australia	mobile:	+61 412 385 201
> 
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