[MLB-WIRELESS] thoughts

[vak]

Hi folks,

Having lurked for a few days, I thought i'd throw in my 2c worth (+gst).

At the moment, it seems that we as a group need to think about how we're
going to use this network (assuming it's finished).

We are going to have conflicting views of how the network is going to be
used - Primarily 2 views are going to come up. 1) Fee for service 2)Free
community information sharing based...

Obviously this project is in it's infancy and everyone has an idea of
how it should be. I think we should start writing down a comprehensive
list of what we want to achieve from this project.

If we do this now, it will have a 2 fold effect. 1) It will either
attract clientele or 2) Disuade clientele (spelling ?).

I think it's everyone's aim to attract people to this fantastic
project.....

Do you think it's too early to be formulating ideas of how to use this
network ?

I have a slight feeling deciding on a model now will have it's own
hinderances (Ie - not letting creativity flow) - but I do think we need
some more solid goals to work towards.

Cheers,

Vak

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> Telstra & Optus both hate this.  In fact if you read the (un)AUP, they
> both state that you may not connect any network to the machine that
> has the cable modem link.  I have had battles with both these
> companies to do with exactly this.  It is irrelevant whether it is a
> winblows98 box with a second winblows box attached, or a big fat Gb
> network, they don't like it and they don't put up with it IF they find
> out.  Which they generally don't. ----- Original Message -----
>
>      From: Rohan Fernando
>      To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
>      Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:22 AM
>      Subject: RE: [MLB-WIRELESS] bandwidth issues for the
>      future/internet acces s
>       Hi Michael,
>
>      No idea about the legalities (that's what lawyers are for)
>      but here's a
>      suggestion.
>
>      A gang of cable modems could be established to provide the
>      feed to the WLAN.
>      Admittedly there is an overhead to run it, but then someone
>      has to pay for
>      the data anyway. Would first need to model the estimated
>      data loadings
>      versus cost to run the modems to determine viability. Also
>      probably require
>      H/W & S/W to load balance the modems ie keeping them all
>      under the usage
>      cap.
>
>      Not sure how this conflicts with the overall objective to
>      provide a free
>      service but, a very small annual subscription fee could be
>      charged to all
>      WLAN users. This could provide economies of scale overall.
>      Could use WLAN
>      monitoring to boot off / block anyone that abuses an WLAN
>      AUP.
>
>      Suspect the underlying issue will be that if there isn't
>      currently an
>      AUP/law against this application of cable modems, then there
>      may soon be.
>
>      Regards,
>
>      Rohan Fernando
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: Michael Bailey [mailto:mbailey at enternet.com.au]
>      Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:49 AM
>      To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
>      Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] bandwidth issues for the
>      future/internet
>      acces s
>
>
>      On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:39:40PM +1000, Barry Park wrote:
>      > My understanding is that:
>      >
>      > (i) Unless you have express consent from your ISP, feeding
>      your Internet
>      > service into an open wireless connection will be against
>      both the ISP's
>      > business model and possibly even the law.
>
>      I don't know of any law that prohibits you from letting your
>      neighbour use
>      your internet connection. This isn't Napster. Not everything
>      fun is illegal.
>
>      As far as ISP business models go, the right way to go would
>      be to choose an
>      ISP that allows you to share your bandwidth. Read your AUP
>      carefully and
>      even ask them. If your traffic usage rises too much, your
>      ISP will probably
>      charge you more. So it will be up to you to manage it, just
>      like the
>      hundreds
>      of mom and pop ISPs out there. There's not much difference.
>
>      - Mike
>
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