[MLB-WIRELESS] woteva was: unsubscribe melbwireless

[Connections Consulting]

:) Dan I'm sort of with u on this one, But...No need to flame...  We can
setup a community access system WITH security.  Each group can setup a
VPN if necessary with gateways between each party OR just one big VPN,
it really does not matter, we can secure the network. Now as for
wireless sniffers etc... Maybee encrypted transmissions ???, maybee all
connected parties need to be behind a fireall of their own, so that the
backbone of the wireless network looks like one big INTRANET and each
access point (behind a firewall) will NAT Intranet Address to Internal
customer network (or home i.e. private) address.

i.e.  Wireless "backbone" ip range 10.0.x.y
Home user at firewall DHCP 10.0.x.y
After firewall into local home network 192.168.x.y

You can subnet into may groups on the backbone if necessary.  Players in
online games can MAP ip's to ports and effectively have a "virtual
route" to the other players box.  SO security ??, no real issue if all
connected parties adhere to a common standard...

You can get heaps of firewalls for little or no cost (I use 602 proxy
and wingate, but you can use winroute or even linux with ipchains) and
most of them work fine.

At this stage it then starts to resemble a "commercial" application, BUT
if all who connect understand that it is for THEIR benefit that a
standard must be followed, I don't think it will be of issue.

Now for paying for OPTUS/TELSTRA (I'd rather not), so keep the "air
free" and the links to commercial organisations, well they would still
have to be commercial, but as I have said in some of my previous posts,
if this is a community based effort serving the community needs, then we
may find a "sponser" for free bandwidth ?? Im working on that...

Ciao (and Phew !)

Frank


+-----Original Message-----
+From: Daniel Studds [mailto:foch at optushome.com.au] 
+Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 3:03 PM
+To: melbwireless at melbwireless.dyndns.org
+Subject: Re: [MLB-WIRELESS] woteva was: unsubscribe melbwireless
+
+
+This brings up several things that annoy me:
+a) commercial basis: i'm already paying optus, i dont need to 
+pay some1 else
+b) little or no security from hackers: no- but you have little to no 
+security from hackers *everywhere* quit complaining.
+sorry, these are just my pet hates.
+let the flaming begin.
+
+>Hi
+>Some of us have been providing these services in the form of wan for
+>other organisations for some time. This is in NZ.  Some of the 
+>comments we have seen have been interesting but at the moment they 
+>all take too long to check through.
+>We have taken a different approach here whereby some significant 
+>dollars have been thrown at the project to make i t work on a 
+>commercial basis.
+>We are now seeing problems with poor engineering practices causing 
+>interference problems to other users of the bands.  Some areas of 
+>the spectrum are now over populated.  Good luck with the project. 
+>It will be successful if carefully approached.  remember there is 
+>little or no security from the hackers.
+>Regards
+>Darryl
+
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